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posted by CoolHand on Monday August 29 2016, @01:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the it-takes-all-kinds dept.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html?_r=0

WE progressives believe in diversity, and we want women, blacks, Latinos, gays and Muslims at the table — er, so long as they aren't conservatives. Universities are the bedrock of progressive values, but the one kind of diversity that universities disregard is ideological and religious. We're fine with people who don't look like us, as long as they think like us.

O.K., that's a little harsh. But consider George Yancey, a sociologist who is black and evangelical. "Outside of academia I faced more problems as a black," he told me. "But inside academia I face more problems as a Christian, and it is not even close."

I've been thinking about this because on Facebook recently I wondered aloud whether universities stigmatize conservatives and undermine intellectual diversity. The scornful reaction from my fellow liberals proved the point.

"Much of the 'conservative' worldview consists of ideas that are known empirically to be false," said Carmi. "The truth has a liberal slant," wrote Michelle. "Why stop there?" asked Steven. "How about we make faculties more diverse by hiring idiots?"

To me, the conversation illuminated primarily liberal arrogance — the implication that conservatives don't have anything significant to add to the discussion. My Facebook followers have incredible compassion for war victims in South Sudan, for kids who have been trafficked, even for abused chickens, but no obvious empathy for conservative scholars facing discrimination.

The stakes involve not just fairness to conservatives or evangelical Christians, not just whether progressives will be true to their own values, not just the benefits that come from diversity (and diversity of thought is arguably among the most important kinds), but also the quality of education itself. When perspectives are unrepresented in discussions, when some kinds of thinkers aren't at the table, classrooms become echo chambers rather than sounding boards — and we all lose.


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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday August 29 2016, @08:13AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday August 29 2016, @08:13AM (#394536) Journal

    Wait, so your problem is that they're correct? Wow. I love how you guys are so unintentionally revealing.

    'cause, hate to break this to you Kyuubey, but 1 + 1 does equal 2, and if you say it doesn't, one must assume you either don't understand the underlying concepts and axioms at play, or have some agenda that makes you deny the obvious. You fucked up there.

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  • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Monday August 29 2016, @08:41AM

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Monday August 29 2016, @08:41AM (#394544) Homepage Journal

    So you agree that life holds no value to you. Why not? As long as someone else is coming under the bus and you are getting the money in the wallet!

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday August 30 2016, @04:55AM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday August 30 2016, @04:55AM (#395124) Journal

      Life has value to me. If it didn't I wouldn't be giving over a third of my income to anti-human trafficking causes...and directly, along with personal work, not to some shady charity (which, a little research shows, usually do not help).

      You wanna know who takes this soullessly-scientific approach to life you accuse the left of? People like JMorris. Anyone who says "human biodiversity" and thinks the rest of us don't know that's code for scientific racism under the guise of "well black folks are dumb so we're justified in exterminating them." Eugenecists. Social Darwinists, which is a misnomer if I ever heard one. Generally, Kyuubey, people like you. And yes, I am calling you that for a reason.

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      • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday August 30 2016, @05:52AM

        by cubancigar11 (330) on Tuesday August 30 2016, @05:52AM (#395154) Homepage Journal

        I have no interest in knowing your personal opinions so keep them to yourself. You said 1+1=2 and there is nothing to debate there. It follows that you don't value human life as per your own admission. It also follows that causing harm to other people if it benefits you is acceptable behavior for you. Either that or you accept that there are more things than simple math when human life is involved. Be exact in your response.

        And by the way, ever heard of Winterhilfswerk?

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday August 30 2016, @04:07PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday August 30 2016, @04:07PM (#395315) Journal

          First off, fuck you and die; I bet YOU don't lift a fucking finger to help those in need. Why would you? You're a good little Calvini--pardon me, Randroid, and OBVIOUSLY "those people" deserve to suffer, right?

          Second: 1 + 1 does equal 2. Thankfully, humanity is a hell of a lot less simple and black-and-white than arithmetic...though you're trying hard not to be. At this point I can predict most of your answers before you type them.

          Third: yes, I have heard of that (winter + help + labor), and all that proves is that some things are so bleeding obvious that even a goddamn Nazi can get them right...which raises the question, what the FUCK is wrong with YOU, Kyuubey?!

          tl;dr: even the average Nazi had better morals than you. Kill yourself.

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          • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday August 30 2016, @05:49PM

            by cubancigar11 (330) on Tuesday August 30 2016, @05:49PM (#395367) Homepage Journal

            Thanks. First get yourself checked because a normal person doesn't talk like that. Then we will have logical debate because then you might be able to try to understand what is being said instead of going on one craptastic tirade after the other. bye bye.

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday August 30 2016, @08:24PM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday August 30 2016, @08:24PM (#395420) Journal

              Sounds like I hit a sore spot, Kyuubey :) Sorry, but being shown for the complete walking trash fire of a human being you are does not give you an excuse to do nothing but drop ad-homs (ad-fems?).

              If someone you don't know from Eve is looking at what you type and saying "wow you're literally a fucking Nazi but worse," it may be time for a *little* self-reflection...

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              • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday August 31 2016, @06:19AM

                by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday August 31 2016, @06:19AM (#395602) Homepage Journal

                Hehehe. I hope you understand how much off the mark you are so next time you can save your energy. You blamed me for not replying so I entertained you. Think of it like pity-sex. Its over now. From next time it will be time-pass only. :D

                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 31 2016, @08:58AM

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday August 31 2016, @08:58AM (#395624) Journal

                  Wowwww. Classy as fuck, Kyuubey. You're another one who doesn't know when to shut his stupid fucking mouth, and ends up revealing waaaaaay more about himself than intended.

                  Besides which, your reply clearly shows I've hit a sore point for you. You fucked up, and left yourself wide open, and you deserved that. Seriously, you are Literally Worse Than A Goddamned Nazi (TM) by your own admission. Even I'm stunned; I didn't think you were so completely and utterly bankrupt. Hell welcomes you with open arms...

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @12:35PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @12:35PM (#394623)

    It seems your problem is that you can't understand what an analogy is.