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posted by janrinok on Thursday September 15 2016, @06:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the quick-blame-somebody dept.

Edward Snowden is asking the US president to pardon him based on the morality of his action.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/13/edward-snowden-why-barack-obama-should-grant-me-a-pardon

Well, here is a completely opposite view from the other side, so to speak:

http://observer.com/2016/09/were-losing-the-war-against-terrorism/

"Since 9/11, NSA has been the backbone of the Western intelligence alliance against terrorism. Its signals intelligence is responsible for the strong majority of successful counterterrorism operations in the West. More than three-quarters of the time, NSA or one of its close partner Anglosphere spy partners like Britain's GCHQ, develops a lead on a terror cell which is passed to the FBI and others for action which crushes that cell before it kills. If NSA loses the ability to do this, innocent people in many countries will die.

Unfortunately, there's mounting evidence that NSA's edge over the terrorists is waning. It's impossible not to notice that jihadist emphasis on communications security and encryption, which is now gaining ground, began in 2013. That, of course, is when Edward Snowden, an NSA IT contractor, stole something like 1.7 million classified documents from his employer, shared them with outsiders, then defected to Moscow."

"However, our precious edge in the SpyWar is waning fast. We are no longer winning. We're about to hear a great deal of unwarranted praise of Ed Snowden thanks to the hagiographic movie about him by Oliver Stone that's to be released this week. Don't be fooled. Snowden is no hero. In truth, he and his journalist helpers have aided terrorists in important ways. Snowden and his co-conspirators have blood on their hands—and perhaps much more blood soon thanks to their aid to the genocidal maniacs of ISIS."


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday September 15 2016, @11:52AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday September 15 2016, @11:52AM (#402228) Journal

    I think zocalo got it right [soylentnews.org] and you are overreacting (what a shock).

    I spoke with those involved in the site and it appears that they are moving to posting news that will get a response rather than being a good source of well written news stories.

    Did you speak "with" or "at" those involved? You are known for trolling on IRC.

    You say you see a "trend". Why don't you list the last 5 "troll articles", and we can see how bad they are and if "troll articles" even approach 5% of the stories posted.

    Here's the part of the conversation Gravis chose not to quote:

    [10:38:35] <Gravis> seriously? seriously?! SERIOUSLY?! https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/09/14/1417255 [soylentnews.org]
    [10:38:36] <dogbox> ^ �03SN article: � Claim: We Are Losing the War With Terrorists Thanks to Snowden �04(32 comments)�
    [10:39:13] <chromas> theriouthly
    [10:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, betcha it gets lots of comments.
    [10:40:55] <chromas> Place your bets, ladies and gentlejerks
    [10:41:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: is that all you care about?
    [10:41:13] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i care about quality news
    [10:41:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> active discussion? yes. we're a news discussion site not a news site.
    [10:41:45] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: if all you care about is end user participation, then you have become the thing you souct to flee
    [10:41:54] <Gravis> sought*
    [10:42:10] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so how is this any better than slashdot?
    [10:42:13] <chromas> Nuh uh. We have narrower margins
    [10:42:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, we want the discussion because we like discussing things. they want it for filthy lucre and do not take part in the discussions.
    [10:43:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> we especially like discussing people saying bloody stupid things on occasion, which is where this article fits in.
    [10:43:37] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so you just want a fight in the comments section, no matter how stupid, eh?
    [10:44:07] <chromas> Our goal is to be the youtube comments of news
    [10:44:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, their goal is to be us. we troll WAY better.
    [10:44:56] <SirFinkus> I think it's a good story. The snowden leaks are firmly in tech territory, and it's interesting to get other perspectives on them
    [10:45:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, seriously, think about it... do you want shit excluded specifically because someone thought up a witty headline for it?
    [10:45:26] <mecctro> I'm just here for the coffee.
    [10:45:30] <SirFinkus> when it comes to NSA surveillance, we kind of live in an echo chamber
    [10:45:54] <chromas> I agree with everyone here
    [10:46:04] <SirFinkus> "we" being nerds

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2016, @02:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2016, @02:32PM (#402285)

    Especially the quip about margins.