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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday September 28 2016, @03:07AM   Printer-friendly
from the stuffing-the-ballot-box dept.

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Donald Trump supporters artificially manipulated the results of online polls to create a false narrative that the Republican nominee won the first presidential debate on Monday night.

The efforts originated from users of the pro-Trump Reddit community r/The_Donald and 4chan messaged boards, which bombarded around 70 polls, including those launched by Time, Fortune, and CNBC.

In this latest incarnation, multiple Reddit users enlisted the Trump-supporting masses on r/The_Donald, which has over 200,000 subscribers, by posting dozens of online polls that are vulnerable to vote brigading, bots, and other forms of manipulation that make these non-scientific surveys notoriously unreliable.

Polls that were not open to public voting consistently put Clinton ahead of Trump. In a flash poll by Public Policy Polling, Clinton led Trump 51 to 40. A CNN/ORC poll conducted immediately following the debate found significantly stronger support for Clinton, who topped Trump 62 to 27.

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday September 28 2016, @04:53PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday September 28 2016, @04:53PM (#407507) Journal

    Hilary voted for the war (on the understanding that non-military options would be exhausted first) and later admitted that it had been the wrong vote. Trump simply denied that he never supported it and we have always been at war with Eurasia. I know which of those attitudes I respect more.

    Again, you're choosing to swallow her spin. I know what you're saying is not true because I was deeply engaged in politics at that time, too, and we New York progressives were directly connected with her office (she was our Senator at the time, remember), telling her in no uncertain terms that the pretext for invading Iraq was a complete fabrication. We demonstrated in the millions on the east side of Manhattan, filling every avenue for as far as the eye could see, and she still cast that vote cynically. She knew exactly what she was doing, and was taken in by no one.

    Whatever, she has certain basic qualifications necessary for office that Trump lacks: She is sharp-minded, experienced and professional and apparently capable of planning, articulating, negotiating and compromising to make things happen in the dual sharkpools of international and domestic politics.

    That would describe any other master criminal. It doesn't mean I want Lex Luthor sitting in the Oval Office.

    Even if she is the monster you claim[3], at least, if elected, she would be YOUR monster, working to further American interests as far as they align with her own.

    No, she wouldn't. Hillary doesn't give a damn about the American people. The only thing she cares about is figuring out new ways to sell the American people down the river and pocket the sum. She and her husband already sold advanced targeting technology to the Chinese. Who do you think they're going to target with that technology, East Timor?

    Your post seems somewhat hyperbolic. I don't doubt she's cynical, but not THAT cynical.

    Not, hyperbolic, but clear. I have seen the inside of their operations. I ran their operations. I have seen Chris Ruddy (CEO of Newsmax, and the guy who ran the Vince Foster conspiracy) sitting in meetings with the Clintons, divvying up the spoils. I have seen Rupert Murdoch do the same. I have been in the room when household names you would instantly know have schemed out ways to fleece the public. It's "just business" to them.

    The "unwarranted persecution complex" is nothing to do with manufacturing jobs or NAFTA. It's the anti-PC-anti-"SJW" kneejerk knobheads who have been convinced that to be a middle-class white guy in America is to be the downtrodden victim of a conspiracy to give his job to an underqualified minority via positive discrimination and then tax all his money into the pockets of illegal immigrants. This narrative fits very well with the 1% who would like very much to see all kinds of welfare (except corporate welfare, obviously) abolished.

    I agree the ranting about "SJWs" is tiresome. The white supremacists coming out of the woodwork are exceptionally distasteful. Unfortunately there has been a real conspiracy to grind Americans under the boot heel. It's not because the elites hate white people or Americans generally, but because they want to pocket even more billions. They have bought laws that make it legal to offshore operations and launder profits through shell corporations in the Caymans, so they use them.

    In fact, the elites don't care about race at all. They are as comfortable rubbing elbows with ultra-wealthy Chinese and Africans in the private clubs and resorts of the world as any other sort of people. Why wouldn't they be? They all went to Harvard and Oxford, too. They were school chums. When introduced, they don't ask where they're from, but who their people are (that is, are they Rockefellers, or Fords, etc). The only time they would mention place of national origin or any language of the kind would be when talking to the rabble, a thing they try very hard to avoid.

    It can be quite hard for people who have never encountered the elite to accept that they live in a completely different world than we do. But they do. And you are quite right that the anti-SJW vs. SJW stuff is all their creation, and very much their tactic to divide and distract us to keep us from ever getting wise to that fact.

    Washington DC delenda est.
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