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posted by martyb on Wednesday October 05 2016, @08:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the use-virtual-reality,-instead? dept.

Federal agents have persuaded police officers to scan license plates to gather information about gun-show customers, government emails show, raising questions about how officials monitor constitutionally protected activity.

Emails reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show agents with the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency crafted a plan in 2010 to use license-plate readers—devices that record the plate numbers of all passing cars—at gun shows in Southern California, including one in Del Mar, not far from the Mexican border.

Agents then compared that information to cars that crossed the border, hoping to find gun smugglers, according to the documents and interviews with law-enforcement officials with knowledge of the operation.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gun-show-customers-license-plates-come-under-scrutiny-1475451302

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday October 05 2016, @06:53PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday October 05 2016, @06:53PM (#410764)

    So are you saying that when you are walking around the grocery store or a county fair or some other public event, you assume that nobody will see what you're doing?

    That's what is meant by a reasonable expectation of privacy: Things going on in your living room or your bedroom are different from walking around on the street.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @01:04AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @01:04AM (#410898)

    Difference being if I whip out my camera and start recording you at the grocery store, you can see me (notice all those warnings in stores that security cameras are in use), I can see you and we are on somewhat of a parity.

    And should I follow you out of the store, make a point to film your plate number, I think a strong case can be made for harassment, and the parallel should be obvious.

    You're smart enough to realize the how close this comes to the stasi, but unfortunately are unable to extend even a modicum of concern to those who you disagree with politically.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @01:32AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @01:32AM (#410908)

    So are you saying that when you are walking around the grocery store or a county fair or some other public event, you assume that nobody will see what you're doing?

    NO, that is not what I am saying. Did you miss all that stuff about cameras and computers? Because poor reading skills are the only explanation I can come up with that doesn't otherwise point towards you being a total fucking idiot.

    Being seen and then forgotten by individual people are the circumstances under which "no expectation of privacy in public" was determined to be a valid concept. Now we are seen by cameras that operate 24x7, never forget and cross reference their memories with thousands and thousands of other cameras at practically no cost.

    Circumstances have changed. Ca-fucking-piche?