Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by martyb on Monday October 10 2016, @07:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the Wer-hat-das-geschrieben? dept.

A biography of Adolf Hitler published two years before his autobiography Mein Kampf may also have been written by Hitler:

In the early fall of 1923, when Adolf Hitler was still mostly known for his frenzied speeches at Munich beer halls, a slim biography was published that lauded him as the savior of the German nation and even compared him to Jesus. The book, "Adolf Hitler: His Life and His Speeches," was credited to Baron Adolf Victor von Koerber, a German aristocrat and war hero. Scholars have said that Hitler sought Mr. von Koerber out for the biography because he needed a conservative figure without links to the Nazi Party to help legitimize him as a leader.

However, new research says Hitler penned the work himself. This suggests that Hitler had designs on taking power earlier than many historians have previously thought and manipulated public opinion to get there.

"Adolf Hitler: His Life and His Speeches" was published two years before "Mein Kampf," the autobiography and manifesto that historians consider the moment Hitler went from political propagandist to leader in waiting. The von Koerber biography was published shortly before Hitler helped lead a bungled coup in Munich known as the Beer Hall Putsch.

"It's 1923, and Hitler suddenly decides he needs to boost his national profile," said Thomas Weber, a professor of history and international affairs at the University of Aberdeen, in Scotland, who uncovered documents in Mr. von Koerber's archival papers that he argues reveals Hitler as the biography's true author. The documents included a sworn statement by the publisher's widow.

Dusty old Godwin meme.


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @11:27PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @11:27PM (#412702)

    People dislike neither about Adolf Hitler. These people have been 'told' to dislike. Over and over again. Those who 'told' the people over and over again are called propagandists. These propagandists are paid good money for their propaganda. These propagandists have no conscience and openly lie and create myths. The parasites who pay these propagandists have something to gain from all this. Their future depends on the fact that people will continue believing lies and never bother to look up the truth for themselves. Doing research will automatically give you the death penalty.

    These parasites will never be as popular, powerful, intelligent or loved as Adolf Hitler. Adolf Hitler and his close group gave their lives to do good, to bring justice to their people, to remove the parasites from sucking the blood of the people. They were nationalists and loved their people. Naturally, this cannot co-exist with 'globalist parasites' sucking the very life out of our present and future.

    This 'dislike' must end. When someone says they dislike Hitler or compares someone else to Hitler, ask them _what_ they dislike about the man and _why_ they dislike him so much. They don't know! Not one of them.

    Starting Score:    0  points
    Moderation   -1  
       Troll=1, Total=1
    Extra 'Troll' Modifier   0  

    Total Score:   -1  
  • (Score: 4, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Monday October 10 2016, @11:50PM

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday October 10 2016, @11:50PM (#412711)

    ask them _what_ they dislike about the man and _why_ they dislike him so much. They don't know! Not one of them.

    My Dad knew. Because Hitler invaded Poland in 1939 my Father spent the next 6 years fighting across North Africa and Italy.
    You can spin it anyway you like, but if Hitler didn't want Lebensraum World War II wouldn't have happened.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:43AM (#412725)

      You forgot to mention that Soviet Russia took half of Poland, and had no plans to return it.

      Soviet Russia also took Finland, from which it was driven out eventually.

      Soviet Russia had bigger plans for the world, and Uncle Joe was getting ready at full speed.

      Do you remember the Katyn Forest Massacre?

      You father was used by evil powers hell-bent on world domination. Your father fought for the bad guys. Its nothing to be proud of.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday October 11 2016, @11:06AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 11 2016, @11:06AM (#412890) Journal

        You father was used by evil powers hell-bent on world domination. Your father fought for the bad guys. Its nothing to be proud of.

        The previous poster indicated his father fought in North Africa and Italy. The USSR wasn't in either region.

        Soviet Russia had bigger plans for the world, and Uncle Joe was getting ready at full speed.

        Nuclear weapons changed those plans real fast.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @10:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @10:01PM (#413138)

        My father fought in Africa, on the other side. I dunno who are the good guys, but the bad guys do not go fight, they count the money. Make a one article martial law, "who makes one penny or earns a square inch of property from the war gets his head chopped off", if you hate wars.

        • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday October 12 2016, @12:19AM

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday October 12 2016, @12:19AM (#413181)

          If your Dad was in the Afrika Korps then my Dad hated him.
          It wasn't until 1945 when the Germans were surrendering in droves, that he realised that these young guys were just like him, and he felt guilty about having killed their mates.
          Not that he ever told me any of this, but he did talk to my Mother about it. It affected him badly until his death.

      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday October 12 2016, @12:14AM

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday October 12 2016, @12:14AM (#413179)

        British Army, 2nd Parachute Regiment.
        Not a USSR unit.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:28AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:28AM (#412720)

    They don't know! Not one of them.

    Let me guess. If somebody mentions the whole holocaust thing and blitzkreig thing, those don't count. Obviously anybody who would point those out must be brainwashed.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:55AM (#412732)

      holocaust

      Not again!

      Bring some evidence to back-up the Holocaust thing. Please?

      "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

      It is not for the accused to prove himself innocent. Its the accuser's job.

      blitzkreig

      Blitzkrieg.

      Would it be in everybody's interest if WW1-style trench warfare was conducted? Would it have worked?

      When did a quick war (Blitzkrieg) become a bad phrase? Look and see the whole world is doing it. No more trench warfare.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @11:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @11:39AM (#412900)

        When did a quick war (Blitzkrieg) become a bad phrase?

        Possibly when the term became commonly associated with the repeated bombing of civilian population centres [wikipedia.org], over the course of many months.

        Look and see the whole world is doing it.

        That much certainly seems true.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:51PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:51PM (#412916) Journal

        Not again!

        Bring some evidence to back-up the Holocaust thing. Please?

        "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

        It is not for the accused to prove himself innocent. Its the accuser's job.

        By the standards of what is called evidence, there are terabytes of it for the holocaust. I realize that's a Hollywood-juiced term, but I'll use it because it's what most people know and use to refer to the Nazi extermination campaign. We have the death camps themselves. We have the testimony of thousands upon thousands of survivors. We have the forensic evidence of the gas chambers and all the remains. We have the reports from the American and allied troops that liberated the camps. We have the meticulous records the Nazis themselves kept to track their progress and efficiency. We have the medical research that Mengele amassed experimenting on prisoners.

        We all know all the rest. The Nazis are guilty by any standard of evidence. The Germans themselves concede their guilt. I know because I went to high school there and they spend their senior year of history class learning about the holocaust.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:42PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday October 11 2016, @12:42PM (#412913) Journal

    Good morning, resident SoylentNews true-believer Nazi!

    There's the little bit about Hitler starting WWII and running an extermination campaign against all kinds of people he didn't like--communists, gypsies, evangelical Christians, gays, the handicapped, etc--, but in person I'm sure he was a lovely guy. Er, no, actually people didn't say that about him. Rather, they said he was socially awkward, according to the Mind of Adolf Hitler that the OSS researched.

    If Hitler had stopped at the Triumph of the Will stage, the world might have come to view him as you do, but he didn't. The rest is history.

    --
    Washington DC delenda est.