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posted by martyb on Wednesday November 23 2016, @05:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the you-can-go-your-own-way-♩♫♩♫ dept.

Supporters of a plan for California to secede from the union took their first formal step Monday morning, submitting a proposed ballot measure to the state attorney general's office in the hopes of a statewide vote as soon as 2018.

Marcus Ruiz Evans, the vice president and co-founder of Yes California, said his group had been planning to wait for a later election, but the presidential election of Donald Trump sped up the timeline.

"We're doing it now because of all of the overwhelming attention," Evans said.

The Yes California group has been around for more than two years, Evans said. It is based around California taxpayers paying more money to the federal government than the state receives in spending, that Californians are culturally different from the rest of the country, and that national media and organizations routinely criticize Californians for being out of step with the rest of the U.S. 

Could California go it alone?


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  • (Score: 2) by Entropy on Wednesday November 23 2016, @08:18PM

    by Entropy (4228) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @08:18PM (#432065)

    Stop screwing up electronics, diesel engines, gas cans, and everything else. CARB(California Air Resource Board) compliant gas cans, for instance are tragically worthless. For some idiotic reason people adopt standards good for all 50 states, rather than just not selling to California so we all suffer with substandard crap. Please leave, California. Your strong budget, weak border and obvious military prowess will see you through the tough couple years.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @08:51PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @08:51PM (#432094)

    I went to a Cali auto parts store looking to buy a good old Jerry type gas can, nope... Illegal to sell in Cali. All you can buy are shitty plastic ones that leak through the spout threads and have an anti-leak valve in the spout. Fuck the CARB... Right after my smog check I put the performance intake on and advance the timing 5 degrees, more power and better gas mileage.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @10:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @10:38PM (#432179)

      Its hard to say whether the better mileage amounts to more or less pollution. Smog controls are vital to keeping our air clean, I just can't argue the exact point since better mileage means less gas burned, but bypassing smog controls means more pollution in the air per gallon burned. Its not some stupid regulation for the sake of regulation, Los Angeles used to be so bad you couldn't see the mountains except right after a good rain!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @11:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @11:43PM (#432206)

    For some idiotic reason people adopt standards good for all 50 states, rather than just not selling to California so we all suffer with substandard crap.

    *cough* Texas State Board of Education *cough*

    Yay for the war of Northern Aggression, Intelligent Design, and countless other gems throughout the years.

    Actually, it seems like California has done more in 2 weeks to move to independence than Texas has done for generations. Then again, I could be wrong about how little Texas has done besides bluster. Have they ever done real concrete moves to succeed?