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posted by martyb on Thursday November 24 2016, @11:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the disproportionate-force dept.

Snopes reports

On 20 November 2016, the Dakota Access pipeline protests reached new proportions when an ongoing demonstration turned into a violent [assault on protesters by] law enforcement officials.

Pipeline protesters say 21-year-old Sophia Wilansky was critically injured when she was struck with a concussion grenade thrown by Morton County sheriff's deputies while she was handing out water. As a result, she has been hospitalized and now faces the prospect of having her left arm amputated.

On 21 November 2016, Wilansky's father, Wayne Wilansky, [...] told reporters that she may need as many as 20 surgeries and that, aside from her arm injury, Sophia had welts all over her body from being shot by rubber[-coated steel] bullets, and that it took hours for an ambulance to reach her because of roadblocks. continues

A statement from The Standing Rock Medic & Healing Council stated:
"Sophia was heading to bring water to the unarmed people who were being attacked for several hours by Morton County Sheriff forces. The Morton County Sheriff's Department has stated that she was injured by a purported propane explosion that the Sheriff's Department claimed the unarmed people created.

"These statements are refuted by Sophia's testimony, by several eye-witnesses who watched police intentionally throw concussion grenades at unarmed people, by the lack of charring of flesh at the wound site, and by the grenade pieces that have been removed from her arm in surgery and will be saved for legal proceedings."

Snopes also notes:

A total of 26 protesters were hospitalized and more than 300 were injured.

Water Cannons Used in Sub-Freezing Temperatures at Standing Rock

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @12:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @12:47PM (#432362)

    The original submission yesterday made no mention of the usage of grenades


    Authorities used rubber-coated steel bullets, concussion grenades, tear gas, and water cannons against unarmed protesters near the Dakota Access oil pipeline in 26°F (-3°C) temperatures over the weekend.

    When a grenade is used in action, it is intended to cause casualties.
    When they start tossing explosives around, nothing good can come from that.

    Absolutely. This whole thing was criminal assault on unarmed people exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

    aboard ship [...] Hypothermia

    One assumes there was an "indoors" on that vessel where you could duck back in.
    If you went out to the exterior of the ship when there was a chance of getting wet, I'll bet you went dressed for that.

    The folks at Standing Rock are living rough (camping).
    They didn't expect to be soaked through in freezing weather by a bunch of jerks.
    To deal with their soaked clothing, they would first have to evade the bully boys with the weapons then get back to where there are warm dry clothes and change into those, likely in a tent.
    The combined distance, time, and thoroughness of the soaking seem like more way than they could have foreseen, unlike someone doing a daily routine where all the variables are known ahead of time.

    It would be interesting to see how you held up under the exact same conditions.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 24 2016, @01:32PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 24 2016, @01:32PM (#432376) Homepage Journal

    "all the variables are known ahead of time."

    The sea. You can't know ahead of time. You can only guess, and be vigilant for changing conditions.

    Don’t confuse the news with the truth.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 25 2016, @08:54AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 25 2016, @08:54AM (#432792)

      "Today the sea was more wet than expected, so we had to go back to port to replace our regular waterproof gear with extra waterproof gear".

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 25 2016, @12:08PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 25 2016, @12:08PM (#432831) Homepage Journal

        Small minds are easily amused, right? When you have a couple year's sea duty behind you, come back and tell me about the sea.

        Don’t confuse the news with the truth.