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posted by mattie_p on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the non-soluble-fiber-is-good-for-digestion dept.

Fluffeh writes:

"Google has officially invited 34 cities in nine metro areas to become the next batch of the Google Fiber rollout.

Google said it 'genuinely would like to build in all of these cities,' but that the complexities of deploying networks may not allow it. 'During this process, we will work with each city to map out in detail what it would look like to build a new fiber-optic network there,' Google said. 'The most important part of this teamwork will be identifying what obstacles might pop up during network construction — and then working together to find the smoothest path around those obstacles. Some might be easy, some might take some creative thinking or a few months to iron out, and in some cases there might be such local complexities that we decide it's not the right time to build Google Fiber there.'"

 
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  • (Score: 1) by Fluffeh on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:52AM

    by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:52AM (#3178) Journal

    I thought they back-pedalled on a lot of the "server" stuff when a number of people EFF included combed through the TOS and nit-picked. At that point, didn't they say something along the lines of "servers are okay, as long as they aren't basically a business" type thing?

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by dmc on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:10AM

    by dmc (188) on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:10AM (#3191)

    "
    I thought they back-pedalled on a lot of the "server" stuff when a number of people EFF included combed through the TOS and nit-picked. At that point, didn't they say something along the lines of "servers are okay, as long as they aren't basically a business" type thing?
    "

    Yes, they backpedaled within 48 hours of this photograph appearing on the internet-
    (small children holding picket signs in Google saying "Google's Not Net Neutral" and "I Want A Server")
    http://crossies.com/IMAG0778.jpg [crossies.com]

    I am the one who led the crusade the prior year documented in my manifesto-

    http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-dr aft-2k121024.pdf [cloudsession.com]

    And today I've started to wonder if the backpedaled stance isn't vulnerable to a section 1 Sherman Antitrust lawsuit given the ToS against commercial servers seem in my mind to satisfy these 3 criteria-

                    1. An agreement
                    2. which unreasonably restrains competition
                    3. and which affects interstate commerce

    • (Score: 1) by dmc on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:19AM

      by dmc (188) on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:19AM (#3196)

      s/in Google/in Utah/

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by hankwang on Thursday February 20 2014, @08:22AM

      by hankwang (100) on Thursday February 20 2014, @08:22AM (#3262) Homepage

      "
      I thought they back-pedalled on a lot of the "server" stuff when a number of people EFF included ... business" type thing?
      "

      Hey dmc, there is the blockquote quasi-html tag! Quotation marks on a line by themselves look weird to me.

      • (Score: 0, Redundant) by dmc on Thursday February 20 2014, @08:34AM

        by dmc (188) on Thursday February 20 2014, @08:34AM (#3267)

        hmmm ok I'll

        test a

        couple things out

        and now I even see the nice documentation below which perhaps could have educated me as to the somewhat more inconveniently long tag.

        Thanks.

      • (Score: 1) by evilviper on Thursday February 20 2014, @10:56AM

        by evilviper (1760) on Thursday February 20 2014, @10:56AM (#3331) Homepage Journal

        Hey dmc, there is the blockquote quasi-html tag! Quotation marks on a line by themselves look weird to me.

        When I'm mobile, I use regular quotes, too. Typing </blockquote> on a smart phone using Swype, into a large text box that doesn't nearly fit on the tiny screen, is a particularly tedious and painful exercise.

        If there were JS buttons above/below the text input box that inserted those tags, they'd save obscene amounts of time.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by c0lo on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:53AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:53AM (#3210) Journal

    At that point, didn't they say something along the lines of "servers are okay, as long as they aren't basically a business" type thing?

    I'm not aware of what they said or didn't say, enough that their ToS says: no servers for commercial purposes but Ok for any personal ones.

    Except... isn't this an example/instance of an obstacle for individual entrepreneurship?
    Put together with others of the same, wouldn't be an explanation for the middle class crisis [google.com] in America?
    How one can expect the Americans to be self reliant if everybody tells them: yep, do everything you want for personal purposes, but if you want it for business, well... cough your money and two pints of blood with it... you are meant to be no more than consumer (or, in DICE's terms, an "audience". As captive as possible).

    Now, think a bit: what's the purpose of those incubators and hackatlons and what not? Why can't those activities take place at home, especially if one is unemployed and have 1Gbps link? Why should they be able to start something on their own, grow it from their server at home and move it somewhere else only if it worths it? 1Gbps is absolutely plenty for a startup, it may be absolutely more than enough for no matter how long even for a small eshop that sells 1000 penny blossoms/day (if you get my drift).
    Tell ye, let 5-10 years to pass and the thought of starting soylentnews will be so strange for the mind of newer generation, they'll never be able to think it.

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