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posted by martyb on Tuesday May 06 2014, @02:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the second-chances-come-first dept.

Thought experiment proposed to reconcile psychological versus thermodynamic arrows of time:

A pair of physicists has proposed a thought experiment to help reconcile the seeming disparity between the psychological and thermodynamic arrows of time. In their paper published in the journal Physical Review E, Leonard Mlodinow and Todd Brun claim their thought experiment demonstrates that the two seemingly contradictory views of time, must always align.

When ordinary people think about time, they see the past as something that has come before and the future as a great unknown yet to come. We can remember the past, because it has happened already, but not the future, because it hasn't. Physicists, on the other hand see time as able to move either forward or backwards (towards greater entropy), which implies that we should be able to remember events in the future. So, why can't we?

It's because of the way our memories work the two say, and they've created a thought experiment to demonstrate what they mean. Imagine, they write, two chambers connected by an atomic sized tube with a turnstile in it. If there is gas in one of the chambers, individual atoms of it will move through the tube to the other chamber (towards higher entropy) tripping the turnstile as they go, in effect, counting the atoms as they pass by, until both sides have equal numbers of atoms-creating a state of equilibrium.

http://phys.org/news/2014-05-thought-psychological -thermodynamic-arrows.html

Arrow of Time FAQ

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47

http://journals.aps.org/pre/abstract/10.1103/PhysR evE.89.052102

 
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by marcello_dl on Wednesday May 07 2014, @09:25AM

    by marcello_dl (2685) on Wednesday May 07 2014, @09:25AM (#40462)

    > What concerns me...
    > people think I have to prove something doesn't exist for me to justify not believing in it.

    Ask them where in the sacred book this vision is outlined.

    Because in Matthew and Luke there is:
    "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet."

    See? "Welcome", "Listen". Two different things from "Believe". Belief can't be anything but personal. You have to avoid falling for incomplete atheist reasonings, and from the social pressure of believers.

    Forcing belief is evil, because it prevents personal belief to occur potentially. So even if I like to bash atheists because their arguments are the C equivalent of out of bounds arrays every time they make an assertion in the domain of transcendent concepts, I think many believers are in much more danger because they had the example of their master and they did not follow it.

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