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posted by martyb on Tuesday May 06 2014, @03:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the you-can-access-the-emails-we-want-you-to-see dept.

In 2008, two of Sarah Palin's personal Yahoo email accounts were hacked, revealing the existence of correspondence with other government officials like Alaska's Lieutenant Governor and even California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger outside any sunshine record-keeping requirements of the state government. Palin was eventually cleared of any wrong-doing with the account, despite the account being deleted before the investigation even started.

In what feels like the discovery of another tip of the same iceberg, ProPublica has a report about the Cuomo administration's adoption of similar tactics in New York.

 
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  • (Score: 1) by tftp on Tuesday May 06 2014, @06:06PM

    by tftp (806) on Tuesday May 06 2014, @06:06PM (#40250) Homepage

    Police also routinely communicate with each other in person. Should they be fitted with personal audio and video recorders? Otherwise banning cell phones won't be effective.

    Police officers use phones in several situations. First, their radios may not work well within buildings, but the cellular signal may be strong enough because towers are everywhere. Second, the radio channel is simplex, and there are only few of those channels. Direct conversations on a shared channel are not welcome; they have to be approved by the dispatcher (the control.) Also, lengthy discussions of specifics of a certain case are of no interest to other officers.

    As pretty much every tool in existence, cell phones can be used for good and for bad. A technological measure will not solve a social problem. If you want the LEOs to not plot an illegal act outside of the range of monitoring systems, you have to find better LEOs. Nothing less will do.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Angry Jesus on Tuesday May 06 2014, @06:27PM

    by Angry Jesus (182) on Tuesday May 06 2014, @06:27PM (#40264)

    > Police also routinely communicate with each other in person. Should they be fitted with
    > personal audio and video recorders? Otherwise banning cell phones won't be effective.

    The perfect is the enemy of the good.

  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 06 2014, @06:43PM

    by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 06 2014, @06:43PM (#40270) Journal

    Second, the radio channel is simplex, and there are only few of those channels.

    Its not 1958 any more.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunked_radio_system [wikipedia.org]
    http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Trunking [radioreference.com]

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by HiThere on Tuesday May 06 2014, @07:22PM

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 06 2014, @07:22PM (#40289) Journal

    Not a bad idea. The police have so often proved liars and corrupt, that I feel all their time while on the job should be recorded with recorders that they have no access to or control over...but which can be subpoenaed for court records. So, yes, they can use cell phones...but what they say will be recorded by official records.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 06 2014, @10:01PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday May 06 2014, @10:01PM (#40358)

    Should they be fitted with personal audio and video recorders?

    Absolutely, and some departments have done exactly that: Among other things, brutality complaints drop dramatically among the officers who were fitted with personal cameras, and those complaints that do come up are much easier to resolve.

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  • (Score: 1) by gman003 on Tuesday May 06 2014, @10:27PM

    by gman003 (4155) on Tuesday May 06 2014, @10:27PM (#40367)

    Yeah, sounds good to me. Stick a camera and microphone on every cop - if it goes off while they are on duty, and they do not immediately remedy it, they're fired. And if they performed any "police work" with it off, they're charged with malfeasance. To make sure records are not "misplaced", the recordings should be broadcast online as soon as their duty shift ends (I'm sure the ACLU, among numerous others, will make their own copies based on that).

    And hey, don't they tell us that more security cameras makes us safer?

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by tftp on Tuesday May 06 2014, @10:50PM

      by tftp (806) on Tuesday May 06 2014, @10:50PM (#40372) Homepage

      On one hand, this is a good application for Google Glass. On the other hand, LEO are dealing with personal information all the time - license plates, addresses, names, restraining orders, convictions, court dates... and some of that information belongs to 3rd parties who are not involved. A Reporting Party could be a neighbor, for example; and that neighbor doesn't want to broadcast to the whole world that it was she who called police. This information should be protected.

      This means that if each LEO is monitored, those records cannot be streamed over the Internet in real time. They can be only available as evidence, or in a similar legal way. They will be available to lawyers, victims, and courts, but not to a bored stranger who wants to watch an IRL crime drama.

      This personal information is transmitted over the air these days. Some channels are mere NBFM, other are P.25 (not encrypted around here.) They require a certain hardware to intercept, and that hardware costs some significant money. A bored stranger has to do some reading, and then some spending, before he has a working scanner. It's not a high barrier, but it helps protect against many unprepared observers. Though these days some scanners are streaming over the Internet, so all you need to have is a smartphone.

  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday May 07 2014, @01:28AM

    by sjames (2882) on Wednesday May 07 2014, @01:28AM (#40394) Journal

    Upgrade the radios or issue cellphones for police business. Nothing about the job should be off the record, especially not with the amount of reasonable suspicion that's floating out there.

    • (Score: 1) by tftp on Wednesday May 07 2014, @01:40AM

      by tftp (806) on Wednesday May 07 2014, @01:40AM (#40396) Homepage

      The police (in this area, at least) are using department-issued cell phones. About every other officer has it. They need them to call people - many 911 calls are resolved over the phone; in other cases the officer needs to know where to meet with the victim, etc. Some cases are purely about filing a paperwork, such as if one loses their passport.

      However cell phones do not provide recording of conversations. Recording that is suitable as evidence should be done properly and reliably, not with a Walkman that is duct-taped to the phone. Perhaps NSA can do it, since they record everything else already...

      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday May 07 2014, @02:39AM

        by sjames (2882) on Wednesday May 07 2014, @02:39AM (#40404) Journal

        Treat it as a wiretap order. Easy enough since there isn't a 4th amendment issue involved in a govt issued phone for official use only.