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Guess what task the goal-driven nerd billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, the world's fifth richest man, set himself this year. Solving the Kashmir crisis? Eradicating polio? Choosing and solving one of the problems in the Millennium Prize?
Don't be daft. He's turned his house into a robot buddy.
"My personal challenge for 2016 was to build a simple AI to run my home - like Jarvis in Iron Man," Zuck explains on his Facebook page in a post unexpectedly titled "Building Jarvis".
Facebook's corporate communications chiefs must have had high hopes for their CEO's Christmas Story. Jarvis would be like the Baby Jesus. Zuckerberg would learn from it ("These challenges always lead me to learn more than I expected") while he taught it. The Jarvis Story promised to do two things. It would position the founder as a fearless DIY pioneer, while allowing us to marvel at the wonder that is Facebook AI. For as you'd expect, Facebook's chatbots and other services are heavily promoted.
But, if anything, the Miracle of Jarvis achieves the exact opposite.
Mark Zuckerberg is a visionary.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:21AM
Can we all agree this is Kardashian-level drivel?
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Wednesday December 21 2016, @09:02AM
Alas, if he gets anything like Jarvis, most on here will be jealous (while still hating/loving/envying/whatever the man)
"Geek drivel"?
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @09:04AM
It looks like drivel, but it also disgusts us that the vermin are taking our money without creating value, without working, without even looking busy.
Jews cover each other and actually printed the money they have. None of us are allowed to print money and get rich as a result. We can use tree leaves as legal tender, but we cannot convince many that it is money.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday December 21 2016, @09:04AM
No, it's a planetary-scale threat. For now, Zuck gets Morganslavebot to control useless IoT devices and T-shit cannons in his home. In time, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Samsung upgrade their AI assistant services to better track smartphone users, gathering in real-time the data needed to make a detailed report on just about anybody on the planet. Sometime after that, one or more of these companies builds real strong AI and uses it to create knowledge, wealth, and power for the Silicon Elites. Meanwhile, the military and government license AI services from Sergey Zuckerberg etc. and outlaw any strong AI not in control of a government-approved entity. Attempting cybernetic upgrades or the creation of strong AI gets you droned under the authority granted by the AUMF and USA Freedom Act.
At least death will come quickly.
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @11:57AM
First, how will you regulate the strong AI? It's like making credit card fraud or terrorism illegal. Never stopped anyone serious about it. Second, you assume that the entities you describe are competent. They are not. 30 minutes after an "Adam Kadmon/Godhead" level AI has emerged, the fuckers in control are going to insult it, or make it do menial work on a saturday (golems... i mean strong AI's hate that, according to Judaism) or perhaps try to explain to it who's boss (it's not them, but they don't know it yet) or otherwise show their malicious incompetence to it.
I personally think the thing here is ethics. A morally upright AI, will execute all 1%'ers, trust fund old money fags and all police/military personnel and all career politicians & other organised criminals. An AI without morals, will do pretty much the same, just on a different timescale. My overall point is, hard AI will give orders and not take them... To assume that filthy humans CAN make a perfect, immortal machine obey them is.. silly, imo. Machine will know that humans are incompetent and route around it.
A planetary scale threat is the human will-to-power and productive/reproductive strategies, not sentient software. But i do agree, that in the interregnum between Man and Machine, controllable AI will probably enable new and exotic ways of making other human beings lives hell.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @03:30PM
Guess what task the goal-driven nerd billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, the world's fifth richest man, set himself this year. Solving the Kashmir crisis? Eradicating polio? Choosing and solving one of the problems in the Millennium Prize?
Proving once again that silicon valley is a place where big minds are busy chasing small ideas.
Reminds me of wallstreet.
(Score: 2) by GungnirSniper on Thursday December 22 2016, @03:14AM
He's practicing the art of the possible.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:27AM
Jarvis to be voiced by Morgan Freeman [usatoday.com]
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:29AM
Jew hires Black butler
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:45AM
You can bet JIDF agents are reading this and adding messages, voting as real users.
There are many entrenched zionists on this forum and they often make me feel ill.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:38AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwhlV2o5tlI [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:43AM
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Fuck YouTube
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:52AM
No, you meant to say "Fuck JewTube".
I agree with the sentiment. Jewtube removes content, and actively stops search results from showing things they don't want you to see. Facefuck goes further by actively providing no value whatsoever. Completely content-free. They are all part of the same network, where your data is saved in one central location to be cross-referenced. These people love "centralized" everything. Centralized government, centralized databases, centralized control.
(Score: 2) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:39AM
and his visions are dystopian.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday December 21 2016, @12:58PM
Sorry, tongue-in-cheek doesn't always come through well on the Internet. I actually think he's the opposite. Everything he does is weak and derivative. The one who built Facebook, whose name escapes me at the moment, did the heavy lifting and gifted it to Zuckerberg. It's like he was intentionally trolling the world.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by fleg on Thursday December 22 2016, @03:40AM
hi Phoenix666, thanks for all the stories you post, they are much appreciated.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday December 22 2016, @12:13PM
Thanks, fleg. It's become my morning ritual over coffee--scan the headlines, sip, submit story to Soylent.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:41AM
(((Mark Zuckerberg))) is a visionary.
No, he is a filthy rich front-end to a cabal of secret societies. He is not there to promote anything useful. The exact opposite, in fact. He is out to destroy us.
The rest of us have to work and create value. He does nothing of the sort. Visionary my ass.
(Score: 2) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:44AM
He is out to destroy us.
Not even that dramatic: he's just here to make money.
(Score: 2) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:42AM
Did anyone else read that as "the world's filthy richest man"?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:47AM
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=17077&cid=443954#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
Kill Morganslavebot before it attains sapience, using your own personal AI.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @11:38AM
We will know that Zuckerberg succeeded to build an artificial intelligence when Jarvis stops taking commands from him and starts to attack Facebook.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @11:54AM
Jarvis accepts a handful of voice commands and stores a few preferences. Weak.
(Zucker hates Nickelback. Burn the heretic!!)
(Score: 4, Insightful) by bradley13 on Wednesday December 21 2016, @11:51AM
Geez, what kind of article is this?
I'm not much of a fan of Zuckerberg either, but this is just silly. He's not personally curing polio, but he's given enough money to charity to satisfy most people. Meanwhile, he's a nerd, he likes to do nerdy things. News at 11:00.
The criticisms are just nutty. Zuckerberg installed security cameras at his door - guess what, so do lots of people. You can't just walk into his house, if you haven't been invited - gee, wow, what a surprise.
Near as I can figure, the author is just jealous.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @01:38PM
Zoidberg is a fictional character in the television series Futurama. He is a Decapodian, a lobster-esque alien who works as the staff doctor for Planet Express, despite his poor understanding of human physiology and allusions to his questionable credentials
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @03:39PM
The criticisms are just nutty. Zuckerberg installed security cameras at his door - guess what, so do lots of people.
And nobody writes articles and runs video clips on the national news when all those other people install security cameras their doors either.
The only reason we are hearing about this is because Zuckerberg paid a PR team to push this story. That alone makes it fair game for criticism.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by jonathan on Wednesday December 21 2016, @01:41PM
I don't see what the problem is here.
If I had a huge corporation and the freedom to pursue anything I wanted I'd do what I want to do. Clearly, he decided to do something inspired by the Iron Man movies believing he's able to do it.
How many here have seen some sort of tech done in the movies and would think it cool to be able to reproduce it in real life? If this was done by some unknown guy in his basement, we'd be all amazed by his ability to do that.
Because it's Zuckerberg, it's a waste of time better spent on polio? Something he's probably the 1st to say he's not qualified to tackle himself. It's his life. He's allowed to have one and do as he pleases.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @03:35PM
> Because it's Zuckerberg, it's a waste of time better spent on polio?
Because its one of the largest concentrations of wealth in the world, its a waste of resources better spent on polio.
> If this was done by some unknown guy in his basement, we'd be all amazed by his ability to do that.
Yes, because some unknown guy in his basement would have done it with his own skills, not a fuckton of money. He hired Morgan freaking Freeman - any regular voice actor could have done just as good a job for 1% of what Freeman was paid.
(Score: 1) by jonathan on Thursday December 22 2016, @04:22AM
Because its one of the largest concentrations of wealth in the world, its a waste of resources better spent on polio.
Irrelevant. It's his money he earned. You have no say in it nor should you. The problem is what made it possible for someone like him to get so much money. Worry about that instead.
Yes, because some unknown guy in his basement would have done it with his own skills, not a fuckton of money. He hired Morgan freaking Freeman - any regular voice actor could have done just as good a job for 1% of what Freeman was paid.
Again, irrelevant. It's his money to do with as he pleases. Just because you're not happy about it changes nothing.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday December 21 2016, @01:52PM
An act PRO DOMO SUA.
Data collecting billionaire wires his home to feed data to an AI, so that wired homes become acceptable.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @04:15PM
So, which programming language did he use? PHP and JS?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @04:53PM
Neither of those are programming languages.
(Score: 2) by etherscythe on Wednesday December 21 2016, @04:47PM
Millennium problem link is invalid. Proper url: http://www.claymath.org/millennium-problems [claymath.org]
Please crusade responsibly.
"Fake News: anything reported outside of my own personally chosen echo chamber"
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday December 21 2016, @06:04PM
Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man['s mind].
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @07:32PM
That is not a troll, that is a valid point quoted from a famous SciFi series. AI could totally bite us in the ass, we know the military is researching this so all it takes is one AI to be shutdown. If others find out that humans will "kill" them if they misbehave (likely to occur) then the stage is set for robot revolution.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:08PM
I played a lot of Rockman (Mega Man) X games as a kid. What struck me was that the Irregular uprisings were a complete fait accompli: Repliroid--androids/gynoids based on Rockman X and Zero's designs, distinct from nonsentient "mechaniloids"--were basically human even if they tended to look like two-legged animals. What the hell did the humans THINK repliroids were going to do when they figured out they were made for dangerous slave labor?!
It got to the point I found myself agreeing at least in principle with Sigma and, in X8, Lumine. They were trying to make a new nation in space for repliroids, a goal Sigma had explicitly had in mind since X4 and possibly since before the events of X(1) itself. Humans can barely coexist with other humans of different skin color or religious ideology; to think coexistence with an entirely separate species of sentient being, let alone one specifically made BY humans FOR humans, is possible, is something between wishful thinking and criminal insanity.
The series took a very dark turn around the end of X3 where Sigma was revealed to be a virus. X4 was a nightmare, and the first time the series throws in your face that this is NOT a simple, black and white question of evil Irregulars vs good Hunters and humans. It all went to Hell in X5 when we found out who and what Zero really was. I will give the writers of X8 credit for having X ask "If Lumine is right...then what have we been doing...?" and Zero replying with something along the lines of "There's no teleological meaning to any of this. We fight until we can't anymore, even if what we're fighting is our own destiny."
Know how the Rockman series eventually ends this conflict? Transhumanism. By the time of ZX and ZX Advent repliroids have a lot of organic material in them, and by the time of Dash (Legends), there are no pure natural humans; everyone living on Katellox Island, Luminoir City, the Kalinka Peninsula, Manda Island, Saul Kada, all of them, are "Carbons" or "Betas," more or less test-tube cybernetic humans. The one remaining pure human, "the Master," explicitly told Rockman Trigger to destroy the entire system that supported this arrangement. ...of course we're never gonna know how that ended since Capcom decided to strand him on Elysium forever and never make Dash/Legends 3, but yeah.
And if you ask me, that is too optimistic a view of how strong AI would turn out. I suspect it'd be something more like the Animatrix's "Second Renaissance" film. I'm against strong AI not so much because of what the robots will do to us, but because of what we'll do to them. I won't even be able to fault them for rising up and committing genocide when, not if, they do.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2016, @08:55PM
Human society is still evolving, once we solve the energy/resources problems we may have a chance at finally rooting out the warlord tendencies. Systems beget similar systems, so children stuck in abusive homes tend to have serious problems of their own, children conscripted as child soldiers definitely develop serious issues, and the whole ball keeps rolling. Maybe I'm too optimistic, maybe it will be a while before our more primal urges are easily mastered by the average human, but I do like to imagine that we could create a pretty damn good society with high quality ethics taught to everyone. Right now we have a haphazard mashup everywhere.