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posted by on Monday January 09 2017, @08:49PM   Printer-friendly
from the second-amendment dept.

The love of guns in the United States has been well documented, as have multiple mass shootings across the country such as those in Orlando, San Bernardino, Newtown, and Virginia. The ease of access to guns in American society comes at a shocking cost.

As of September 2016, almost 11,000 people have been killed as a result of gun violence. Despite this high death toll, mass shootings in America show no sign of disappearing.

The Stateside obsession with guns can appear baffling to UK observers unfamiliar with its origins. So just how did this gun culture become so deep-rooted in the American psyche?

BBC source: Why Are Americans so Obsessed with Guns?

Wikipedia: Gun politics in the United States


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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 09 2017, @09:25PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 09 2017, @09:25PM (#451649) Journal

    Good response, and I thank you for that. I expect a lot of nonsense responses to my post, but this one is really good. I will remind you, however, that some of those settlements have been very permanent indeed. I intentionally listed several citations of genocide and gendercide.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 09 2017, @10:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 09 2017, @10:50PM (#451709)

    I expect a lot of nonsense responses to my post,

    Interesting, why is this the case?

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 09 2017, @10:57PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday January 09 2017, @10:57PM (#451715) Journal

      Because he has a massively-inflated opinion of himself and his worldview, and any replies that don't mesh with it in several key ways are "nonsensical."

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      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 09 2017, @11:08PM

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 09 2017, @11:08PM (#451725) Homepage Journal

        If you can't refute what the guy says, insult him, eh? Weak Troll is weak.

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        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:16AM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:16AM (#451804) Journal

          That is not an insult; that is a fair description of his modus operandi. And yours, I notice. What made you come rushing to his aid anyway? No one was talking to you, and he's a big boy; he can handle this himself...riiiiight?

          Go back to your hugbox, carrion-breath. The grownups are talking.

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          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:45AM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:45AM (#451818) Homepage Journal

            What made you come rushing to his aid anyway?

            I enjoy pointing out when you're spouting worthless venom. It does amuse.

            The grownups are talking.

            +1 Funny

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            • (Score: 0, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:55AM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:55AM (#451823) Journal

              Some part of you know what just happened here, Uzzard. Even you can't be so completely dense as not to realize it. We've gone down the wrong leg of the trousers of time, *again,* and this time when SHTF ain't *none* of us getting out of it alive. Even your insults are lacking the usual joie d'vivre.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:07AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:07AM (#451919)

                Excessive vitriol is a GREAT personality trait to have post-apocalypse.

                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 10 2017, @09:01AM

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @09:01AM (#451951) Journal

                  Ve haff sayink in old country: "CRY SUM MOAR!"

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                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:42PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:42PM (#452204)

                    Who will weep for you when you are gone?

                    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:16PM

                      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:16PM (#452219) Journal

                      Who cares? This isn't my first time in the body, though I'm hoping it'll be the last. Throw all that away; the ego is temporary and transient.

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    • (Score: 1) by Roger Murdock on Monday January 09 2017, @10:59PM

      by Roger Murdock (4897) on Monday January 09 2017, @10:59PM (#451716)

      Because everybody else is wrong

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday January 09 2017, @11:33PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Monday January 09 2017, @11:33PM (#451741)

      Because people like Azumi like to respond to anything he says with knee-jerk insults.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 09 2017, @11:44PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 09 2017, @11:44PM (#451748)

        Because people like Azumi like to respond to anything he says with knee-jerk insults.

        Interesting. Why is that, do you think?

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday January 10 2017, @12:02AM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @12:02AM (#451760)

          Because it's much easier to respond with a knee-jerk insult than formulate an actual coherent argument?

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday January 10 2017, @02:09AM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @02:09AM (#451827) Journal

            easier to respond with a knee-jerk insult than formulate an actual coherent argument?

            Could be. But it is very difficult to form a coherent counter-argument to batshit-insane right-wing NRA talking points, since they are incoherent to begin with. And it scares me when Runaway goes all "Internet scholar" on us. Sure sign of a red herring fallacy.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 09 2017, @10:56PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday January 09 2017, @10:56PM (#451713) Journal

    All that proves is "if you're gonna use violence, use it very, very well." Which is true, of course; violence begets more violence in retaliation, unless you commit complete and utter genocide.

    Violence has its place. Two wrongs don't make a right, but sometimes they prevent a third, fourth, etc. wrong. Just for the love of all that's holy, make sure you do it right...and be prepared to accept the consequences. Save it for a last resort, and use it like a scalpel, not a sledgehammer.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DECbot on Monday January 09 2017, @11:48PM

      by DECbot (832) on Monday January 09 2017, @11:48PM (#451751) Journal

      Not trying to invoke Godwin's Law, but I want to point out that what you said sounds eerily similar to German sentiment in the 1930's.

      A final solution...

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      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:23AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:23AM (#451807) Journal

        Actually, the inverse of that was my point: basically "If you're gonna go this route, you've already sold your soul. Go the whole hog. If you're gonna be evil, be evil with a capital E."

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  • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:13PM

    by isostatic (365) on Tuesday January 10 2017, @01:13PM (#452016) Journal

    I haven't seen any evidence of guns settling the problems in Syria. Nor did I see any evidence of guns settling the problems in Northern Ireland -- in the later case it was only when the guns were put down that the problems were reduced.