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posted by takyon on Saturday January 28 2017, @09:22PM   Printer-friendly

President Trump's executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. also applies to green card holders from those countries, the Department of Homeland Security said Saturday. "It will bar green card holders," acting DHS spokeswoman Gillian Christensen told Reuters.

Green cards serve as proof of an individual's permanent legal residence in the U.S. A senior administration official clarified on Saturday afternoon that green card holders from the seven countries affected in the order who are currently outside the U.S. will need a case-by-case waiver to return to the U.S. Green card holders in the U.S. will have to meet with a consular officer before departing the country, the official said.

Source: The Hill

At least one case quickly prompted a legal challenge as lawyers representing two Iraqi refugees held at Kennedy International Airport in New York filed a motion early Saturday seeking to have their clients released. They also filed a motion for class certification, in an effort to represent all refugees and other immigrants who they said were being unlawfully detained at ports of entry. Shortly after noon on Saturday, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, an interpreter who worked on behalf of the United States government in Iraq, was released. After nearly 19 hours of detention, Mr. Darweesh began to cry as he spoke to reporters, putting his hands behind his back and miming handcuffs.

[...] Inside the airport, one of the lawyers, Mark Doss, a supervising attorney at the International Refugee Assistance Project, asked a border agent, "Who is the person we need to talk to?"

"Call Mr. Trump," said the agent, who declined to identify himself.

[...] An official message to all American diplomatic posts around the world provided instructions about how to treat people from the countries affected: "Effective immediately, halt interviewing and cease issuance and printing" of visas to the United States. Confusion turned to panic at airports around the world, as travelers found themselves unable to board flights bound for the United States. In Dubai and Istanbul, airport and immigration officials turned passengers away at boarding gates and, in at least one case, ejected a family from a flight they had boarded.

[...] Iranian green card holders who live in the United States were blindsided by the decree while on vacation in Iran, finding themselves in a legal limbo and unsure whether they would be able to return to America. "How do I get back home now?" said Daria Zeynalia, a green card holder who was visiting family in Iran. He had rented a house and leased a car, and would be eligible for citizenship in November. "What about my job? If I can't go back soon, I'll lose everything."

Source: The New York Times


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @01:50AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @01:50AM (#460029)

    So torture, mass surveillance, and placing authoritarians in positions of power is going to make America great again? How?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:35AM (#460059)

    With Obama we had mass surveillance and an authoritarian running the country. It's not great, but most countries are standardizing on it.

    Torture has been proposed for places outside America, like Guantanamo Bay and various black sites around the world. This obviously has no effect on America.

    So, none of that changes anything about America. Other things will make America great again: charter schools, firearm suppressors, pipelines, a big beautiful wall, airport upgrades...

  • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:12AM

    by Sulla (5173) on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:12AM (#460088) Journal

    Torture is not on that list. Mattis said no and Trump said he will defer to Mattis' expertise.

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday January 30 2017, @04:38AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday January 30 2017, @04:38AM (#460516) Journal

      Wait, what? Torture was brought to us by the 1st coming of American fascism, led by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, and now the same ilk is balking? I am stunned.

      What happened to change their minds, was it the general shunning, aversion, and being spat upon by real Americans who still cherish the concept of the country as, "The Land of the Free, Home of the Brave?"

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      • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Monday January 30 2017, @04:32PM

        by Sulla (5173) on Monday January 30 2017, @04:32PM (#460694) Journal

        Mattis expressed his same reluctance to use torture to Bush II and Cheney but was shot down. Trump said he will defer to Mattis as an expert and go with that he wants to do. Mattis' opinion is that you can do more with a beer and a pack of cigarettes than you can with waterboarding. Guess the best way to appeal with Trump is to tell him that money can fix his problems.

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        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday January 30 2017, @04:50PM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday January 30 2017, @04:50PM (#460704) Journal

          Well that's good. It's a calculation, not a moral determination. It would shock me to the core to learn that any of these characters had developed a conscience or come to believe that other human beings have inherent worth and an equal claim to dignity and justice, and that torturing them is about the most base, malignant, and irredeemable act one person could commit.

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          • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Monday January 30 2017, @06:26PM

            by Sulla (5173) on Monday January 30 2017, @06:26PM (#460736) Journal

            Yeah it is pretty fucked. Personally I have found though that if someone wont appeal to the moral argument rather than double down on their immorality it is better to appeal to them in a way that you do care. Often these people can be swayed when you can show them how it is cheaper/more effective to do it your way, as long as you don't point out the moral argument they often will let it go.

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