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President Trump's executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. also applies to green card holders from those countries, the Department of Homeland Security said Saturday. "It will bar green card holders," acting DHS spokeswoman Gillian Christensen told Reuters.
Green cards serve as proof of an individual's permanent legal residence in the U.S. A senior administration official clarified on Saturday afternoon that green card holders from the seven countries affected in the order who are currently outside the U.S. will need a case-by-case waiver to return to the U.S. Green card holders in the U.S. will have to meet with a consular officer before departing the country, the official said.
Source: The Hill
At least one case quickly prompted a legal challenge as lawyers representing two Iraqi refugees held at Kennedy International Airport in New York filed a motion early Saturday seeking to have their clients released. They also filed a motion for class certification, in an effort to represent all refugees and other immigrants who they said were being unlawfully detained at ports of entry. Shortly after noon on Saturday, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, an interpreter who worked on behalf of the United States government in Iraq, was released. After nearly 19 hours of detention, Mr. Darweesh began to cry as he spoke to reporters, putting his hands behind his back and miming handcuffs.
[...] Inside the airport, one of the lawyers, Mark Doss, a supervising attorney at the International Refugee Assistance Project, asked a border agent, "Who is the person we need to talk to?"
"Call Mr. Trump," said the agent, who declined to identify himself.
[...] An official message to all American diplomatic posts around the world provided instructions about how to treat people from the countries affected: "Effective immediately, halt interviewing and cease issuance and printing" of visas to the United States. Confusion turned to panic at airports around the world, as travelers found themselves unable to board flights bound for the United States. In Dubai and Istanbul, airport and immigration officials turned passengers away at boarding gates and, in at least one case, ejected a family from a flight they had boarded.
[...] Iranian green card holders who live in the United States were blindsided by the decree while on vacation in Iran, finding themselves in a legal limbo and unsure whether they would be able to return to America. "How do I get back home now?" said Daria Zeynalia, a green card holder who was visiting family in Iran. He had rented a house and leased a car, and would be eligible for citizenship in November. "What about my job? If I can't go back soon, I'll lose everything."
Source: The New York Times
(Score: 2, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday January 29 2017, @11:19AM
Preach to me some more about how stupid I am. I really don't know how high your education went - but my education was more advanced than yours before I reached Senior High School.
Not necessary, old man, you are doing quite well on your own without any help from me, or any other Soylentil. So you are saying your education was HUGE? Was it the best education ever? Was every other education a looser compared to yours? Did you have a larger crowd for your education than other posters? Do you not see what has happened to you? You have become a Donald clone! A New York Flim-Flam Real Estate Developer with an inferiority complex! Nice to see you did Google some dates, though. That's a start. But please, do try not to be so stupid in the future, OK?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @11:41AM
No, my education wasn't truly special - yours was. Special, as in "special needs alternative education".
Tell us more about Islam and "enlightenment". Some of us may enjoy the laugh. I actually used the search term, "Islam enlightenment". Don't blame me if you don't like the sources:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/296509-islam-never-went-through-the-enlightenment/ [unexplained-mysteries.com]
http://books.wwnorton.com/books/detail.aspx?ID=4294992664 [wwnorton.com] (that one sort of supports your claim that Islam has had an enlightenment - in the 19th century, not during the dark ages, you nitwit)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age [wikipedia.org] (maybe you meant golden age, rather than enlightenment? I note that this article attempts to credit Islam with maths that predate Islam.)
Regardless how many of the claims for Islam's Golden Age are true or exaggerated - Islam has NOT outgrown the concept of spreading it's influence at the point of a sword. Islam insists, to this day, that ONLY an adult Muslim male's word has any value at court. Adult female Muslim's word is only worth 1/2 of a man's word. All the rest of us? We have no value, therefore our word has no value.
Shall we move along? Do you have any more fairy tale claims to make for Islam? Or, shall we discuss the sexual proclivities of certain Greeks?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 29 2017, @05:12PM
Wow, you're *mad.* He got you with facts. Listen, Runaway, just because an Enlightenment doesn't stick, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Thanks to that very same al-Ghazali, though, mysticism and muddy-headed thinking prevailed, and Islam degenerated back into its Iron Age roots rather quickly.
Unfortunately, al-Ghazali was responsible for leading Islam off the path of the old Greek philosophers with the "Incoherence of the Philosophers," whereas Christianity mostly stuck to them, and his idea of occasionalism (basically, everything is Allah's will, and his immediate, direct will at that). Averroes, IIRC, wrote a rebuttal in the next century but by then it was far too late. This was the death of epistemology in the mass of Islam.
That said...if the presence of extremists and violent members of a religion means any Enlightenment it's had is null and void, you just tarred Christianity with that same brush. You don't seem to understand something here: we, in the US, have just had the Christian equivalent of the Wahhabbis seize power. They didn't do it violently (directly...) but that's because their fellow travelers have spent the last 50 years flying under the radar slowly encroaching on this country's government. Forget Trump; Trump is a shiny, loud, pseudo-populist distraction. Look at Pence, look at DeVos, look at all the Birchers and Dominionists in the new cabinet.
If there ever were a case of the pot calling the kettle black...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @07:06PM
"Islam degenerated"
Islam never left the Iron Age, despite the words of a couple sweet-talking devils.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @07:46PM
despite the words of a couple sweet-talking devils.
Now the truth can be told. We here at the Demonic Division of SJW, World Domination Squad, can now reveal to the world that Runaway1956 has finally sold his soul. He hates irrationally, piles insults on those who would help him, and is possessed of logorhea of the internets! Just another success story for our efforts here at Demonic SJWs! Keep up the good work, daemons!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 29 2017, @09:10PM
Did you fucking read one single thing I wrote? Jesus. You're deranged.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @10:13PM
Uhhhh, I read all the important stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAHSbIz8fEY [youtube.com]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.