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on Tuesday February 21 2017, @03:35AM
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Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard
Twitter has launched a new way to punish users for bad behavior, temporarily "limiting" their account.
Some users are receiving notices their accounts are limited for 12 hours, meaning only people who follow them can see their tweets or receive notifications. When they are retweeted, people outside their network can't see those retweets.
Some speculate these limitations are automatic based on keywords, but there is no hard evidence.
This would be fine if this was used uniformly to clamp down on harassment, but it appears to be used on people, simply for using politically incorrect language.
Source: http://heatst.com/tech/twitters-new-tool-to-crack-down-on-politically-incorrect-language/
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Life is not for everyone.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday February 21 2017, @05:02AM
And just who is going to build that alternative to your whims? You can never have a guarantee that there will be a replacement of that niche with a freedom of your speech to your liking. We got lucky with Soylentnews, but there is never a guarantee of a viable alternative.
The problem is, that you are more often than not using a service that others are paying for, and are subject to their rules. In my ignorance I objected to being banned permanently from Slashdot, because they were all about free speech, right? Until they weren't.
Here, I'm pretty sure that the leadership wants to choke the living shit out of me. The tricky part about things like that is that, if you want to have an online forum espousing free speech, you might not get trolls who can say insightful things from time to time. You might just get total garbage. So how do you deal with that garbage? How much do you grow to dislike it before you enact more stringent measures?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Tuesday February 21 2017, @05:58AM
And just who is going to build that alternative to your whims? You can never have a guarantee that there will be a replacement of that niche with a freedom of your speech to your liking. We got lucky with Soylentnews, but there is never a guarantee of a viable alternative.
I'm quite capable of communicating with those with whom I wish to communicate without Twitter or Facebook or any other entity who profits off the creativity of others.
Have your wits been so dulled by booze and 140 character messages that I need to list the myriad methods by which that's accomplished?
The problem is, that you are more often than not using a service that others are paying for, and are subject to their rules. In my ignorance I objected to being banned permanently from Slashdot, because they were all about free speech, right? Until they weren't.
You're making my point for me, aren't you?
Here, I'm pretty sure that the leadership wants to choke the living shit out of me. The tricky part about things like that is that, if you want to have an online forum espousing free speech, you might not get trolls who can say insightful things from time to time. You might just get total garbage. So how do you deal with that garbage? How much do you grow to dislike it before you enact more stringent measures?
As I pointed out a while ago (I'm took lazy to go look it up and post a link to my comment, but perhaps it stuck in that pickled brain of yours) eth, you're a fucking asshole. But you're *our* fucking asshole. You say all sorts of offensive, nasty and ridiculous bullshit. Much of it I find to be somewhere between laughable and downright hateful. Now and again you say something worthwhile.
Then again, even if you never said anything worthwhile, you're certainly tolerated (and welcome here, at least by me) by most folks because anyone can have their say here, even if it's complete horseshit. Much of that comes from the management, and that's something I cherish about this place. As I'm sure, do you.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 4, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 21 2017, @02:39PM
"eth, you're a fucking asshole. But you're *our* fucking asshole."
Awwww, I just got a warm fuzzy feeling . . . . oh wait, I think I pissed my pants. Never mind.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @12:19AM
Awwww, I just got a warm fuzzy feeling . . . . oh wait, I think I pissed my pants.
Well, that Depends®.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Tuesday February 21 2017, @06:41PM
I like Ethanol: he provides the ying to my yang. (Did that sound gay to you?) :)
He sometimes says VERY insightful things and often makes me think. At the least, he gives me a chuckle.
Two thumbs up to Ethanol.
"Our Ethanol": yuuuuuuup!
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 21 2017, @01:24PM
Sometimes its just organic, you get a big enough pile of people on a big enough platform and just like antibiotic resistance doesn't "have to" form yet it always inevitably does eventually, here's gab.ai which like /pol/ is kinda echo-chamber-y but none the less entertaining.
trolls who can say insightful things from time to time.
That's part of the red pilling process which is precisely why the opfor wants censorship. We live in a heavily politically indoctrinated society, looking at media, the education system. Everyone who's not hopelessly bluepilled started by visiting /pol/ or whatever and was like 99% repulsed due to brainwashing but damn that one meme about "hillary voters going to the election polls / trump voters going to the polls" or some ben garrison political comic or whatever got them started thinking, and a month of open minded uncensored thinking later they're all 14/88. And that's exactly why the 1984-style people are desperate for censorship. Once a political philosophy is far past its "best by" date and hopelessly obsolete and unable to effectively model and predict the world, its only hope is to avoid scientific like openness and rely on censorship and oppression to stay in power just a little longer. It happens every time from left to right or right to left. All it ever really does is piss off the victims making for ... overreaction. Hopefully the inevitable overreaction to the death of progressivism will just be a lot of yelling and bad feelings and not the camps ovens after the end of Weimar Germany, but that would require introspection and historical perspective on the side thats instead doubling down with oppression, censorship, and violence, like happens every time in human history, so one guess how this is likely to turn out.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2017, @04:20PM
Or, the partisan labels "progressive" and "alt-right" are just red herrings. There is no real progressive policy happening any more, both "sides" just use rhetoric to polarize public opinion and allow bad policy to be passed with little opposition. The evil entities of the world hide behind d labels, the Gates foundation hides behind altruism of research and education in order to destroy our education system. I don't have a good conservative exams offhand but they hide behind religion and morality to push their agendas.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 21 2017, @08:51PM
I don't have a good conservative exams offhand but they hide behind religion and morality to push their agendas.
The neocons, yes aren't they an interesting self contained group.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday February 21 2017, @07:17PM
Hey VLM, you know that Matrix fan theory about Zion being just another level of the Matrix to catch clever folks who think they made it out? Hint: that's what these alt-right places are. Clever traps that flatter the egos of small-timers like you, who think seeing through one layer of bullshit means seeing through them all.
Wake up, Neo: the Matrix has you. Forever.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 4, Interesting) by jmorris on Tuesday February 21 2017, @03:41PM
And just who is going to build that alternative to your whims?
The Alt-Tech movement. The replacement for Twitter is Gab.ai. They are still scaling up and adding features but they even do video already. Twitter is pretty straightforward tech to replicate, it is the revenue model that is eluding Twitter. Gab for now is just asking for donations instead of spending most of their time working ways to sell the eyeballs they are collecting. They know exactly what they are fighting against and have already built in anti-SJW entryism as an explicit goal for management. On the service itself though, Speak freely is the motto and they mean it.... although Weev has already pushed it right to the line a few times. You can't actually break laws. Gab Guidelines [gab.ai] is about as open as you can expect.
I get the feeling things are starting to shift even here. Last month I suddenly found myself banned from moderating. No I don't abuse mods, I am often too lazy to actually moderate but that is a different thing. I will often moderate several posts then get distracted before I hit the bottom of the page and end up closing that tab instead of submitting.... no javascript has pluses and minuses.
Now I notice that the balance of power in moderation has shifted in general, where before there were at least as many up as down votes overall, now I only attract far more downmods, implying I wasn't the only one. Meaning it wasn't a random accident. Somebody has decided this place needs less diversity of ideas and found a more subtle way to 'fix' the problem than the banhammer or shadowbanning. That seems to be the general pattern across the Internet, the first gen was just point and shriek, then call in a strike on the heretics. That generated a backlash, like the creation of SolyentNews. The enemies of liberty do learn, if slowly.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2017, @04:13PM
Occam's razor explanation: people caught on to your bullshit and now apply more critical filters when they see your name. I've been tricked into thinking you had a good point before, then retread the comment and saw it wasn't quite what I thought. There have been a few posts of hours I've liked, so far all technically oriented.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday February 21 2017, @05:14PM
Consider that you're getting downmodded because you're actually dangerously wrong about a lot of things, maybe? I've seen the same pattern; over the last 2-3 months I've noticed you and people like you are attracting a lot more (justified!) heat, and it does me good to see you getting what you deserve.
News flash, shitheel! When you use the term "dark enlightenment" unironically, everyone with half a brain is gonna call you on it! And now that you're getting the ridicule you so richly deserve, it's "whaa, whaa, poor persecuted me, why's DA MAN keepin' me down?!" Go cry in your safespace.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday February 21 2017, @06:52PM
Someone probably modded your comment as spam.
You need to bring it to the attention of the mods if you feel it is unwarranted.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday February 22 2017, @12:27AM
Doesn't sound right. I only got banned from moderating, being flagged as a spammer wouldn't do that while leaving the posting bonus intact, or at we should hope not.
I was hoping mentioning it would bring out others to prove that it wasn't an isolated incident that could be put down to "sh*t happens" but that doesn't seem to be the case. So maybe I just have a stalker.
(Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:40AM
Easy to have free speech when you make sure only the correct people are allowed to participate.