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America's new president gave an address to a joint session of Congress. The Los Angeles Times posted a full transcript of the speech (along with remarks from its staff that may require Javascript to view); Bloomberg uploaded a video of the event.
The New York Times called it "the most presidential speech Mr. Trump has ever given — delivered at precisely the moment he needed to project sobriety, seriousness of purpose and self-discipline."
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(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:24PM (7 children)
Maybe the greatest speech ever made. They'll be teaching this to your grandkids and quoting it at graduations. BEST. EVER.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:29PM (6 children)
Of course, you'll ignore that he did in fact make a self-deprecating and sober appraisal of his administration's nascent performance.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:35PM
Sure, bhat's only because he hadn't realized how dumb we are and he should have talked at a lower grade level. Not his fault, ours. Our fault he got a C. Shame on us.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @09:29PM (4 children)
Of course he did, no way you can have so much scandal in the first few weeks and then NOT address it. He soothes his supporters to assure him that such insanity is deeply regretted and will not happen again. Better than getting impeached for treason.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @09:43PM (3 children)
You people have no idea what you're talking about; you don't have a clue about the workings of government.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Sulla on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:16PM (2 children)
I don't know, ever since I found out that he sold positions at the state department for industry favors I have gotten on board with the treason thing. And at the state department no less, has he no shame?
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:54PM (1 child)
you can't just drop a claim like that and not provide a link to back it up
FYI - handing out ambassadorships to major campaign donors is standard, every administration has done it since at least andrew jackson
but if you are talking about something more than that, I want to hear about it.
(Score: 2) by Kromagv0 on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:47PM
Personally I like how the press is exposing every one of trumps actions that while not illegal are morally questionable. The fact that these types of things have been business as usual for ages is the problem not that it is Trump doing it. I will welcome action in 4 or 8 years when we have a different president as it has been missing for most of the last 25 years (I didn't follow the news all that closely as a child under George H. W. Bush and Regan)
T-Shirts and bumper stickers [zazzle.com] to offend someone
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:35PM
Somebody kidnapped him and replaced him with a body double who willingly reads normal speeches. Or, maybe the Secret Service discovered and removed his crack stash.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by CoolHand on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:59PM (1 child)
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job-Douglas Adams
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday March 01 2017, @09:43PM
I 100% forgot all about that feature, which existed before this update.
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday March 01 2017, @09:43PM (14 children)
The Women Who Aren't Having Kids Because of Trump [vice.com]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @09:51PM
meanwhile you can be sure that that the trump's election was pure vyagra* for racists
the alt-nazis are victory-fucking their brains out
* apparently correctly spelling the blue pill triggers the spam filter
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:20PM (8 children)
I hove how the opinions differ about them compared to the far right religious who would have refrained had it been Hillary. But I guess thats how it is, anything one side does is saintly and everything the other does is demonic.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:56PM
I don't think its as symmetrical as that.
But since you did mention trump being demonic:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/02/22/demonic-activity-palpable-at-president-trumps-rally-pastor-says/ [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:09AM (6 children)
It's a regrettable dynamic. I am a progressive guy, but the tear that progressives are on right now is incredibly tedious and counter-productive. The people shrieking, "Russia! Russia! Russia!" sound exactly like the people who were previously bellowing, "Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!!!!"
How about we unwind our collective cognitive dissonances, pop our bubbles, climb out of our echo chambers, and try to be a little consistent, eh? Imagine what we might accomplish if we stopped to realize our pragmatic agendas overlap 90% with people on the other side of the aisle, instead of declaring them apostates of Satan.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:38AM (5 children)
Well guess you proved me wrong. I dont want to be a hypocrite so I am going to have to support the left calling the right demons. Because I will not forgive Benghazi. She literally made her campaign about being the one you can trust to take a three AM phone call, then blew it off when it actually happened and covered it up.
I think though what it all boils down to for when any elite make mistakes or do wrongdoing, "X blank are (bad thing), at this point what difference does it make" ? I already committed treason, stop bitching. I already sold the mineral rights, stop bitching. I already bombed Iraq, stop bitching. I already went back on my promise to let you keep your doctor, stop bitching.
Elite is elite is elite.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:04AM
> Because I will not forgive Benghazi.
Then you are delusional in your understanding of Benghazi.
Literally 9 congressional investigations and tens of millions of tax dollars spent but at the end, even her most dedicated enemies could not find anything to blame her for when questioned by reporters, instead deflecting by telling them to "read the report." [westernjournalism.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:10AM (1 child)
I already sold the mineral rights, stop bitching.
Oh shit, I didn't see that bit of loony-toons when I first read your post.
Are you not aware that: [politifact.com]
(a) She was just one of a nine member committee with veto power over that sale?
(b) That despite selling the mineral rights, the company did not have the licenses to export even a gram of uranium from the US?
Here's where you prove you aren't a total tribalist - you say "holy shit, I was completely wrong about that, I wonder what else I was wrong about?"
Or you just quickly move on and in a day or two you forget you ever read this and continue to believe that Clinton "sold the mineral rights."
What's it going to be?
What kind of person are you really?
Facts or tribe?
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Thursday March 02 2017, @09:02AM
Those were not Hill specific, so I did not bother to read past your assumpton. Mineral rights one was more a bitch about local politicians.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday March 02 2017, @05:14AM (1 child)
Well guess you proved me wrong. I dont want to be a hypocrite so I am going to have to support the left calling the right demons. Because I will not forgive Benghazi
You will not? Who the hell are you? Do you know that this was a CIA operation? As in Clandestine operations? Of course those guys were sent into there to die. Much like the Marine barracks in Lebanon under Reagan. Like the crew of the Maine, in Havana Harbor. Like the lost legions in Siberia! You evidently do not know much about American Military history. All the Americans do is lose, and not just according to the Donald. Lexington Bridge? Losers. Alamo? Losers. Gettysburg? Loosers! Little Bighorn? Big time losers! Vietnam? Oh, yes, losers.
And of course, everyone loses in Afghanistan, the Americans are just establishing a endurance record. So you better forgive Benghazi, you loser! It is the most minor of American setbacks, was not intentional, and Hilary had nothing to do with it, and Rush Limbaugh never did call for air-support, you hussy! Drop it, now! Concentrate on that poor woman who's SEAL died because of Donald, if you want to not forgive.
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Thursday March 02 2017, @09:05AM
Who said I forgive Trump? You seem to assume that I like any of them. All of them are tyrants.
But keep up with the left vs right like a good citizen.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @01:00AM (3 children)
Ya know, I used to think that way too. After thinking about it for a long time, it occurred to me that this kind of fatalism creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. You want to save the world? Keep at it now, for them. Start thinking about the next generation. I mean, YOU won't be able to reach them, but maybe your kid, raised right, educated, and properly encouraged, might actually be able to do something. If you stop playing the game then you're just another psuedo-intellectual masturbatory nihilist guilty of doing your little part to make sure the thing you fear happens all the while loudly screaming "Woe is me, woe is me" to whatever tabloid will listen.
Here we all are in the age of a single person conceivably having access to tens of millions of eyeballs, and you're rolling over and giving up. You care THAT much? Assemble a coherent fucking message. Get it out there. If Trump can be president, anyone can, right? So why aren't you trying? You think he's wrong and you're so right? Prove it. At least try. Do something, or be remembered as the last pandas that wouldn't fuck to save their own species.
But I guess if you're the kind of person who goes to your fucking barista for emotional support, well, maybe you shouldn't reproduce after all.
I am so sick of weak people. I must be getting old.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @01:41AM (2 children)
FYI, posting a comment to SN doesn't count as "doing something".
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:11AM
It is not the best kind of something, but it is a non-nothing. Speaking up is important. If you stop doing it, it won't be long before you lose the freedom to do it.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Thursday March 02 2017, @04:25AM
Where did you get the idea that the AC thinks that posting here counts as "doing something"? Did I miss something in their comment?
I mean, you can do other things and post here. In fact, with enough therapy, I've almost become a functioning member of society in spite of my SN posting habit!
Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Wednesday March 01 2017, @09:45PM (7 children)
I missed the speech (and don't really care!)
What gets me laughing is CNN: they were sooooooo PRO HILLARY THE GODDESS and ANTI-orange man with small hands.
Then Trump wins and says, "CNN, you can no longer play with me in my great bath tub, where it is all soapy and bubbly and warm".
Go look at CNN now! They are cosying up to the Trump like my dog on my leg!
1. Wall Street loved Trump's speech
2. Dow closes above 21,000 for first time ever
3. Van Jones: This was when Trump became President
4. Navy SEAL's widow provides emotional highpoint in Trump speech
There is still some hate, but it seems to have been pulled back a bit.
Just makes me laugh: now, maybe, CNN will get back to "just the facts, ma'am" and leave the politics out of it.
Yeah, i know: i'm naiive.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Sulla on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:25PM (6 children)
CNNs behavior has been a real shame. My dad has been a lifelong democrat, voted that way as long as he can remember. Seeing the blantant lies put forward by CNN has turned him away from anything they promote because it throws everything they do into question. We need a media that questions the president on the actual issues and facts, while CNN has been doing some of that they have been primarily tabloid tier in their treatment.
I take some satisfaction in knowing that Trump watches the factor and occaionally Wallace stands in on fridays. Wallace is himself a democrat but is excellent about choosing reasonable guests and sticking to the facts.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday March 01 2017, @11:42PM (3 children)
Seeing the blantant lies put forward by CNN
Name one.
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Wednesday March 01 2017, @11:58PM (2 children)
Screw them [youtube.com]
Being a major media outlet they will be telling all sorts of lies that cater to their owner's agendas, they are a bipartisan propaganda network.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 02 2017, @12:26AM
Like most simplifications that statement leaves out some nuance and edge-cases. But, it's basically correct.
If you posses classified information, even if from a leak, 46 CFR 503.59 applies to you.
However, the Supreme Court did in fact find that the press get's a bit of extra leeway. [theatlantic.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:28AM
Oh please. One guy got a little worked up, said something stupid, and literally everyone called him on it.
I was expecting a lie of substance, such as consistently repeating a false narrative across multiple shows.
Like the fox deliberately used disinformation tactics when reporting on climate change. [independent.co.uk]
If you demand perfection then you guarantee failure.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @01:16AM
White House access has been dangled in front of the various networks as a carrot to get them to parrot the administration's line, whichever party is in charge, for decades. Not sure how this flip-flop can possibly surprise anyone who's been paying attention.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:32AM
You won't get that with for-profit media with commercials/sponsors/underwriting.
(Include NPR and PBS here.)
Outlets which are 100 percent listener-supported/viewer-supported are what you need to seek out.
Pacifica Radio [wikipedia.org]
Free Speech TV [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2, Funny) by AssCork on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:28PM (1 child)
Stock in pop-corn companies will continue to climb over the next eight years.
EIGHT.
Just popped-out of a tight spot. Came out mostly clean, too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @11:49PM
Let's get riiiiggghtt into the noose!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @12:49AM
When will you realize that this guy is selling snake oil? Watch how everything positive was done by him, and everything negative gets blamed on someone else. It doesn't take a strong person to admit they make mistakes, but not this guy. He never makes them, just ask him. He will tell you the tale of how he saved an orphanage from fire-breathing dragon terrorists, only last week. How does the saying go "There is a sucker born every minute"?
(Score: 2, Informative) by charon on Thursday March 02 2017, @01:58AM