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Microsoft has added a setting to Windows 10 that will let users restrict new software installation to only those apps hosted in the Windows Store. The option debuted in the latest version of Windows 10 Insider, the preview program which gives participants an early peek at the next feature upgrade as Microsoft builds it. That version, labeled 15042, was released Friday.
With the setting at its most stringent, Windows 10 will block the installation of Win32 software -- the traditional legacy applications that continue to make up the vast bulk of the Windows ecosystem -- and allow users to install only apps from the Windows Store, Microsoft's marketplace. Other settings allow software installation from any source, or, while allowing that, put a preference on those from the Windows Store.
Unless Microsoft removes them, the options will appear in the next Windows 10 feature upgrade, dubbed "Creators Update," which is to launch in March or April.
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(Score: 2) by coolgopher on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:27AM (8 children)
- The step after that will be eliminating app installations altogether; after all, any software you could/should possibly use comes part of the base Windows installation. You might need to upgrade* to Ultra Black Extra Core Edition for some features however.
*) May incur an upgrade fee.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:43AM (7 children)
No, it's not.
If they forced everyone to only use MS software, then they'd only make money with the software they create and maintain, and creating and maintaining application software is difficult and expensive. Whereas if they force everyone onto the Windows Store, they make money off of every single application idea that anybody ever has, and they only have to do the relatively easy job of being the middleman, while taking on none of the risk or costs because the application developer has to do that.
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(Score: 2) by coolgopher on Thursday March 02 2017, @05:20AM (6 children)
You're assuming people will actually write apps for Windows.
Back in the day, win32 used to be *the* "open" API which everyone who was someone targeted. Developers, developers, developers! Those devs then got split into win32 vs .Net camps, and then further into whatever the current "unified" environment is called (I haven't done development for Windows in many years). Win32 and .Net(?) are deprecated. Last statistics I saw showed a marked decrease in the number of active developers for Windows.
Windows isn't cool to develop for these days. Windows apps aren't cool. Contrast that against the IOS or even Android camps - that's where the action is, that's where the new blood goes.
My prediction is Windows will end up having to do a Blackberry garden, because no one will care enough to write apps for it, simply because the market share isn't there, and because the market share isn't there, it won't attract new users or developers on the scale needed. Steam, Blizzard & co will be the last hold-outs before the thing implodes.
(Score: 2) by Bogsnoticus on Thursday March 02 2017, @05:52AM
Steam at least have SteamOS for PC gamers/users to fall back onto, and if they take a leaf out of Linux Mint's book and make it "just work", you'll likely see other game devs approaching them.
Or SteamMachines become the new "Mac", as it were.
Worse case scenario, you'll end up with BlizzardOS, UbisoftOS, and EAOS (shudder).
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @09:24AM
It will be an interesting day when the best option to run existing Windows applications is to install Wine.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:35PM (3 children)
Nothing split. The people in the so-called .net camp didn't just get up from the win32 camp and take their toys with them. Microsoft moved them there after migrating their preferred managed languages like Visual Basic and Java to the .net CLR. And those languages used win32 underneath to begin with. Perhaps when they released C# you could say they enticed some C/C++ devs to move to .net but that was a technical choice. And C/C++ does not run on the .net CLR unless you are using Visual C++ (Anyone ever seen it used in the wild? I haven't).
Since when? That rumor when Windows 8/RT was released? Or way back when .Net was released? It's nothing more than FUD unless you can point me to an official MS statement.
Cool? Nothing to do with cool. It's just a shift is the way the market is heading. Before the smart phone and tablet, you needed a PC to get online. Now everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. Why build your application for one platform when you can target so many more? Every Joe blow who had a PC used them for the internet an email. Maybe played some games. They moved to mobile as it was more convenient.
I don't doubt this. But it won't be because no one is writing apps for it. It will be because they are hopping on the mobile bandwagon and forcing people to go through app stores to make more money. But honestly, I dont see it happening any time soon. There is still a metric shit ton of productivity, gaming, and automation software on Windows that isn't going anywhere. MS could try to wall them in but that would mean truly killing win32 which would be suicide.
Disclaimer: I'm not a windows fanboy. Just a realist.
(Score: 2) by Pino P on Thursday March 02 2017, @06:12PM (1 child)
Before the smart phone and tablet, you needed a PC to get online. Now everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. Why build your application for one platform when you can target so many more?
Because a flat sheet of glass isn't the ideal input device for all applications, and not everybody who carries a smartphone or tablet is also willing to carry the necessary input devices. For example, reading email on a smartphone is convenient, but writing more than a paragraph or so without a Bluetooth or USB OTG keyboard is painful. And plenty of video game genres are unplayable on smartphones without a Bluetooth or USB OTG keyboard or gamepad because the user ends up pressing outside the virtual gamepad buttons because he can't feel their edges to line up his thumbs.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Thursday March 02 2017, @10:21PM
You missed that part. My final point was the PC isn't going anywhere. Neither is Windows and Win32.
(Score: 2) by coolgopher on Friday March 03 2017, @03:17AM
> It's nothing more than FUD unless you can point me to an official MS statement.
Tune in to Build, and all you'll hear is UWP UWP UWP. Anything new sounds like it's UWP-only. A quick google came up with this link as a summary:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049927/microsoft-windows/microsoft-to-devs-its-uwp-or-bust.html [infoworld.com]