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posted by on Sunday March 05 2017, @10:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the surprised-there-was-not-a-gag-order dept.

At the University of California's San Francisco campus, 79 IT employees lost their jobs this week, some of them after explaining to their replacements at Indian outsourcing firm HCL how to do their jobs.

The union representing the employees, University Professional and Technical Employees CWA Local 9119, says it's the first time a public university has offshored American IT jobs.

In a statement sent yesterday, UPTE-CWA says the layoffs could spread, since the HCL contract can be utilized by any of the 10 campuses in the University of California system, the nation's largest public university. "US taxes should be used to create jobs in the US, not in other countries," said Kurt Ho, a systems administrator who was quoted in the union's press release. Ho was required to train his replacement as a condition of getting his severance pay.

In its statement on the matter, UCSF says that it was pushed to hire outside contractors due to "increased demand for information technology and escalating costs for these services." The university says it will save more than $30 million by hiring HCL, after seeing IT costs nearly triple between 2011 and 2016, "driven by the introduction of the electronic medical record and increased digital connectivity."

The university says 49 UCSF employees were laid off, and it will eliminate another 48 jobs that are currently vacant or filled by contractors. "UCSF will not replace UCSF IT employees with H-1B visa holders, nor will HCL," the university wrote in a statement e-mailed to Ars.

Of the 49 laid-off UCSF employees, 34 have either secured other employment or are retiring, the university said.

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/public-university-lays-off-79-it-workers-after-they-train-h-1b-replacements/


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @12:47AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @12:47AM (#475436)

    It's us Americans, not Indians who pulled this off.

    Forget foreign enemies. We need to cleanse out our own sell-out traitors.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @01:44AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @01:44AM (#475451)

    Damn, that's what I meant. The ones DOING the outsourcing are the traitors. The Indians are just prawn. The ones doing the outsourcing need to be beaten, stomped on, burned, and beaten some more. If they love India so much perhaps they should GTFO and go live there. But as long as the math says these crapbags can save even a dollar by outsourcing they are going to continue doing it. This needs to be fixed ASAP.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @02:32AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @02:32AM (#475463)

      I like prawns more than lobsters.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @05:01AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @05:01AM (#475495)

        I think the AC prior to the AC meant "pawn", as in a chess piece that can only see what is directly ahead, has no comprehension of the larger context of the game, and therefore votes for Trump, because stupid is always the answer, when you're stupid. Or he could have been quoting Mongo, from "Blazing Saddles": "Mongo only pawn, in game of life." That fits. Common clay of the New Republican party, you know, morons!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @08:03AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @08:03AM (#475533)

          Thank you captain obvious.
          I prefer crawdads.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by archfeld on Monday March 06 2017, @04:56AM (5 children)

    by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Monday March 06 2017, @04:56AM (#475492) Journal

    It is not America, or India, it is the extra-national corporations who despite whatever legal documents they file exist outside of any nation and just take advantage of what ever is the most profitable jurisdiction at any given moment. For example currently Toyota produces more cars in the US and hence provides more jobs and money to the US workers than Ford does. Think of these companies in the terms of freebooters/privateers who fly a flag of convenience claiming the sovereignty of what ever nation fits the immediate need.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Monday March 06 2017, @07:10AM (1 child)

      It is not America, or India, it is the extra-national corporations who despite whatever legal documents they file exist outside of any nation and just take advantage of what ever is the most profitable jurisdiction at any given moment. For example currently Toyota produces more cars in the US and hence provides more jobs and money to the US workers than Ford does. Think of these companies in the terms of freebooters/privateers who fly a flag of convenience claiming the sovereignty of what ever nation fits the immediate need. [emphasis added]

      Many large corporations, especially the muti-nationals (or extra nationals as you call them, perhaps more accurately) do engage in this sort of thing, usually to the detriment of all involved, except the MBAs and top management.

      However, that's not what we're discussing here. I understand that many don't read TFA or even TFS. But geez, Louise! can't you even read the headline? This is most certainly about the United States and, more specifically, the University of California [wikipedia.org]. a public university system.

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      • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Monday March 06 2017, @07:03PM

        by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Monday March 06 2017, @07:03PM (#475745) Journal

        I was replying to a specific point, but you are correct in this story. A publically funded educational entity should be wholly directed at educating and providing jobs to US citizens or those that are here for that purpose. In the same vein I am personally against what the NCAA has done to the education system in the US by subverting its' actual purpose of education and monopolizing huge funds for sports vs actual education.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by anubi on Monday March 06 2017, @07:13AM (1 child)

      by anubi (2828) on Monday March 06 2017, @07:13AM (#475522) Journal

      Yup, playing off one nation against another in the race to the bottom... socializing the costs while privatizing the profits.

      I do not believe politicians will play too much in the future planet... it will be the multinational corporations. The politicians will serve the same function as a speaker in a radio receiver - their pontifications merely echo the current in their voice coil.

      And we will still have our choice between speaker circuit D or speaker circuit R.

      ( Ummm... guess I am a little late with this... its already that way. )

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      • (Score: 2) by pnkwarhall on Monday March 06 2017, @05:03PM

        by pnkwarhall (4558) on Monday March 06 2017, @05:03PM (#475685)

        I do not believe politicians will play too much in the future planet... it will be the multinational corporations.

        ...said the cyberpunk prophesy of the last 30 years.

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    • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday March 06 2017, @03:50PM

      by TheRaven (270) on Monday March 06 2017, @03:50PM (#475664) Journal
      It's also a problem with how accounting works, in particular how complex accounting systems end up creating bad incentives. If you're judged based on income and expenditure, then selling off appreciating assets to raise income makes you look good. Lots of companies and governments have done this. If you're judged based on your department's cash flow relative to others, then cutting a service that you provide to another department that costs you $100/week and saves them $1000/week is a great idea and will give you a raise. If your bonus is related to stock price, and most of the shares are held by short-term traders who don't care about more than 6 months in the future, then you're going to prioritise short-term profits at the expense of long-term thinking.
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