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The need to pee at night (nocturia) -- which affects most people over the age of 60 -- is related to the amount of salt in your diet, according to new research presented at the European Society of Urology congress in London.
Most people over the age of 60 (and a substantial minority under 60) wake up one or more times during the night to go to the bathroom. This is nightime peeing, or nocturia. Although it seems a simple problem, the lack of sleep can lead to other problems such as stress, irritability or tiredness, and so can have a significant negative impact on quality of life. There are several possible causes of nocturia. Now a group of Japanese scientists have discovered that reducing the amount of salt in one's diet can significantly reduce excessive peeing -- both during the day and when asleep.
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223 members of the group were able to reduce their salt intake from 10.7 gm per day to 8.0 gm/day. In this group, the average night-time frequency of urination dropped from 2.3 times/night to 1.4 times. In contrast, 98 subjects increased their average salt intake from 9.6 gm/night to 11.0 gm/night, and they found that the need to urinate increased from 2.3 times/night to 2.7 times/night. The researchers also found that daytime urination was reduced when salt in the diet was reduced.
There's a slightly longer summary here: Cutting salt could cut night-time loo visits; and some mainsteam media have also covered the story in a more readable form: Could eating less salt reduce nighttime bathroom trips?. And for balance, some people on the internet think the opposite is true.
[Update: Replaced ScienceDaily link with a link to original source article. --martyb]
(Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Tuesday March 28 2017, @09:47AM (3 children)
> demands JavaScript
In fact the "demand" is made by JavaScript. Turn off all JavaScript for the site and you should be good.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @10:55AM
Confirming.
The page opened for me fine, FireFox, NoScript.
Now, about the salt. Salt makes you thirsty.
Bar owners know this and put salty stuff out for free.
( Then you are incentivized to buy those ten-dollar beers ).
Then you are full of beer or some other liquid.
Not long, you gotta go pee.
Another thing. You eat big meal the day before. You must drink water so you can make chyme in your intestines. If you do not drink the water, the stuff you ate is too solid to go through all the pipe properly. During the night, all this stuff ends up in your large intestine, which re-absorbs the water. So, in the morning, you gotta go do a crap. But the water went from your large intestine to your bloodstream. Your kidneys, seeking homeostasis, extracted this water. So now you have a full bowel that needs to be dumped, and a full bladder as well.
Its a wonder we get any sleep at all.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:11PM
Updated story to refer to original source where, at least to me, Javascript was not required.
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:15PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday March 28 2017, @09:58AM (2 children)
Funny how these two articles of deluge follow one upon another, like the waves of the sea upon a forsaken beach. Pounding over and over and over again, until they are met by the flood. Oh, if only, for once and for all, someone could put an end to the incessant repetition of the articles of SoylentNews, so that perhance I might sleep, and mayhaps to again dream? Goodnight, sweet prince!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @10:06AM
That's one "over" two many, since there are only too FA in the deluge
(nope, everything's good, you are having a nightmare)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @11:17AM
Hush the susurration of the wine-dark sea, so I may sleep.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:01PM
Dara O'brian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHVVKAKWXcg [youtube.com]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:34PM (4 children)
Are they certain that the increased in salt isn't just part of the issue? Normally salty stuff makes me thirsty... which leads me to drinking more water. Which might need to be let out a bit more frequently as a result.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:26PM
63 -- don't normally add salt to food, but I'm sure I get enough in my diet. And as someone else noted, an extra dose of salt when eating out. Used to pee in the middle of the night quite often, this might have started 5-10 years ago. Now I drink water (etc) during the day and limit my liquids after dinner, and sleep through most nights.
(Score: 3, Informative) by AthanasiusKircher on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:45PM
Are they certain that the increased in salt isn't just part of the issue? Normally salty stuff makes me thirsty... which leads me to drinking more water. Which might need to be let out a bit more frequently as a result.
Completely agree with this observation. I don't eat out a lot, but I've frequently encountered excessively salty food when I do (not to mention the occasional margarita, etc.). When I consume such very salty food, I often drink a LOT more water. (If I don't do that, I frequently wake up in the middle of the night and am ridiculously thirsty... because of the salt. And that leads me to go drink a couple glasses of water in the middle of the night, which leads me to go to the bathroom an hour or two later, still often in the middle of the night.)
Also, it should be noted that these people are eating a LOT of salt. FDA recommends 2.3 grams/day max of sodium, but the average American apparently consumes around 3.4 grams/day. The people in this study were cutting salt intake from 10.7 grams/day to 8 grams/day, still over twice the amount of the average American diet even after cutting.
(Score: 3, Funny) by wisnoskij on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:33PM (1 child)
Good old American Healthcare. Don't want to be woken up by your bladder? Try dehydration today, only $99.99 if you call now.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday March 28 2017, @10:29PM
That's not American: Who's profiting if you cut intake, instead of buying a miracle-pill solution?
(Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:09PM (2 children)
I go pee, take my son to the toilet, then i go pee again.
Usually good to go for the night, but i also do Kiegel exercises (or whatever they are called): start peeing, stop the flow, hold it, let it go again. Rinse, repeat. (Oh, i just vomited into my mouth)
Anything else you'd like to know Officer?
Aside:
I'd like to know how to stop dreaming all night long and having the alarm wake me in the middle of a dream: REALLY fecks you up. Tired, tired, tired!
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:21PM
Simple: Don't set an alarm.
Sure, you might lose your job for not getting there on time, but then, that gives you even more opportunity to sleep until you wake up naturally. Just make sure that you have enough money on the bank to afford that.
How to get the money? Well, you just have to guess the right numbers on the lottery. ;-)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @03:59AM
Hey Gaaark! There are sleep apps for exactly this. They mostly monitor breathing and movement, and those correlate very strongly to phases of sleep. The apps all (afaik) have "wake at the earliest shallow sleep stage after X time, or by Y time at the latest." They pretty much work but can be confounded by cosleepers, though cosleepers teeeeend to synch phases.
Now, I'm an AC. Guess how much I want my cell phone watching me sleep, listening to me breathe and dream?
But one can get a crappo burner phone, load the sleep monitoring app, and desolder the radios on it.
xyzzy
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:43PM (1 child)
How freaking old is the userbase of this site?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:51PM
You mom said clean you're room
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:31PM (3 children)
supposedly a ketogenic diet makes you process/remove more salt so salt shouldn't be a problem for people maintaining nutritional ketosis. i've lost 44 pounds of nothing but fat in 5 months since going ketogenic. very happy with it. well i'm not doing the true ketogenic diet. i'm doing about 50% fat, 25% protein, and 25% carbs but only from vegetables and the small amounts in ketogenic foods. no grains or grain byproducts and no starchy vegetables. sugar only comes from fruit. i eat to satiety. no calorie counting at all. i just stock my kitchen with ketogenic foods and veggies and eat all i want. i try to excercise every other day or two. just thought i'd mention it because it's changing my life. i'm starting to feel like i'm young again. any other old fat asses might check it out. plenty on youtube and the web.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @07:08PM (2 children)
I really wish I had someone near me to do that diet with. I don't do well with those things on my own. If I had a good start I probably would, but otherwise I keep failing. I'd love to do a keto diet.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @04:05AM (1 child)
Don't even go keto. Just remove grains, sugars. The moment you go veggie fruit meat nuts, and drop starchy seeds and pure sugars, your digestive tract overhauls and Shit Gets Real. Try it for a week. You can even keep eating root veggies - sweet potatoes, potatoes, cassava, yam, carrot - so steak beans peas and potatoes is fine. Just don't let starch foods exceed 1/4 of any meal. Super sugary stuff like grapes, mango, oranges - all A-OK!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @01:04AM
See also by Dr. Mark Hyman: http://bloodsugarsolution.com/ [bloodsugarsolution.com]
(Score: 3, Funny) by jcross on Tuesday March 28 2017, @07:15PM (1 child)
I can only imagine how painful it was for the study participants to cut themselves off in midstream so as to pee only 1.4 times per night.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday March 28 2017, @10:34PM
It's a bit like when the Country needs you to have 2,1 children, and you end up with three because you couldn't find the comma (doesn't work as well with US number notation).
Or maybe circumcision and FGM help.
(Score: 1) by EventH0rizon on Tuesday March 28 2017, @09:27PM
Give me a break, this is nothing but the medicalization of normal human behavior.
For all of pre-industrial history humans have been waking at least once [livescience.com] in the night.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @07:24PM
"...some people on the internet think..."