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Next week Microsoft will begin the slowish rollout of its big update to Windows 10, the Creators Update.
Right now, it's doing a little damage control, and preempting complaints about privacy, by listing the types of information its operating system will automatically and silently leak from PCs, slabs, and laptops back to Redmond.
When Windows 10 came out, Reg readers were alarmed by the volume of information the software was collecting and sending back to base. Ever since then, Microsoft has been fighting a PR battle to reassure people that such data slurping isn't all bad – it's "just" telemetry and diagnostics and potentially your files.
Now Redmond's had a little rethink for the Creators Update, and decided to come clean on exactly what the software will phone home – even insisting the closed-source operating system will scoop up less surveillance this time.
What makes you think it's your data?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 08 2017, @04:47AM (5 children)
Ok, admire if you say so. Why should I put down my coffee, though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @06:22AM (4 children)
Maybe afraid you'll throw your cup at the screen?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @06:43AM
How did you know I had a cup of coffee? . . . "Alice! Check the WiFi router, and see if the Mr. Coffee has an IP address. Never mind why, just do it!"
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 08 2017, @07:31AM (2 children)
No reason to. I'm using Plan 9.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Saturday April 08 2017, @11:34AM (1 child)
As a coffee cup or as a screen?
compiling...
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 08 2017, @12:07PM
As anti-MS... mmm... telemetry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ShadowSystems on Saturday April 08 2017, @05:17AM (37 children)
Options like the ability to completely & permanently (not turned back on at MS' whim) turn off telemetry.
Not just throttle it down to a "Basic" level, not requiring us to buy an Enterprise license to be able to use the GPO editor (that the Average Joe may have no idea how to use at all) in order to restrict (but unable to kill entirely) the telemetry, but a simple, single click, Opt In in order to share anything at all.
List the things you want to collect & let us choose which, IF ANY, of them we allow.
You don't need to know my cellphone's IMEI in order to know that I had it tethered as a modem, you merely need to know that I was tethering via a $Model# & $Make of cellphone.
You don't need to know the URL's I've visited, the files I've used, the programs I've downloaded, the music I've listened to, the movies I've watched, or anything else that has nothing at all to do with the running of the OS; it's MY COMPUTER and I don't want you sending my every keystroke back to Redmond for data mining.
YES I know that Amazon, Google, FaceBook, & Twitter all do it too, but as my mother always told me "just because your friends are doing it doesn't make it right".
I have the option not to use Amazon, Google, FaceBook, or Twitter - they're all on the web & I can use them or avoid them as I see fit, voting with my wallet to say if I'll give them any of my data to mine.
But I can't do that with Win10 - if I use a computer with that version on it, even if I didn't install it & have no control over it being there (like a work, library, or school computer), then MS is hoovering up my data & mining the hell out of me.
I do not accept that.
So I won't use Win10 on my personal computers & vehemently caution everyone else that values their privacy not to do so either.
We want the option of whether to send crash reports or not.
Crash reports may be user submitted *IF* we want to let you know about them.
Those reports would include the hardware, the version of the OS, the program that crashed, & why it did so, but WOULD NOT include our private files.
You need to know I was running Win7Pro64 on a 4th gen i3 2.2GHz Intel NUC with 16GiB of RAM & a 250GiB SSD, that the program was Notepad, & that the only other program in memory at the time was Security Essentials.
You absolutely do not need to know the contents of the file I was editing at the time as that data may be private, proprietary, or contractually required to not be shared with third parties.
What if I had been writing up the conference notes of a Client-Lawyer conversation for my boss?
Legally you are *Absolutely Not* allowed access to that conversation, my boss could go to jail if it ever got out that the conversation got out, yet you want to slurp up a copy & pinky swear promise not to do bad things?
Uhhhhh, No. No dice. No deal. That data is private, priveleged, & none of your damned business.
We want the option to accept, deny, delay, approve, reject, & validate individual updates, fixes, patches, & "improvements".
We want clear, concise, informative descriptions of what each one does, why it does it, what it's meant to fix, & why we should apply it.
Some of us have mission critical software that MUST run in order for us to use the computer at all, so if some undescribed megapack superawesomehideouslyhuge single file fix for everything cripples the computer, we have no way of knowing what did it or why.
Our only option at that point is to hope the computer can be rolled back to before the patch applied, block it, & pray like hell it doesn't happen again.
You're forcing hundreds of megabytes (sometimes gigabytes) down our throat without ever letting us know which parts do what, what gets fixed, & what quirks to be wary for.
If we don't have the entire Office Suite installed & only use Outlook, then why ram a bunch of fixes down our pipe to fix software that doesn't exist?
If we're not using SilverLight & don't even have it installed, then why force us to download how ever many megs of patch that don't apply?
What if we don't have a fast & stable connection that's essentially unlimited data consumption?
If we pay by the byte(cellular), the meg (satalite), or the gig (cable) then you trying to send a gig of bloated fixes for stuff that isn't installed not only wastes my time & bandwidth, it costs me real money!
You previously gave us the option to designate a connection as "metered" & thus stop the download of the updates bia that channel, but you've since seen fit to remove that option.
I know you folks at Redmond have unlimited bandwidth connections & can grab a GiB in seconds, but the rest of us out here in the real world don't have that kind of luxury.
So stop cramming it all into one mega patch & ramming a gig down our pipe, ESPECIALLY if we only need the few KiB of it that applies to the software on our dial up machine!
Last but far from least, we want the option to NOT have bits added or taken away at your whim.
If I paid for a Win10 machine & have been using $FunctionX of $ProgramY, I don't want an update to "fix" it so that part no longer exists, or it's now $FunctionZ, or the entire program has been axed.
I paid for the version of the OS with that program & that function, so if you remove it then you owe me a refund.
What do you mean no?
Then you can eat the entire cost when I return the entire device as Defective By Design, Unfit For Merchantability, & get an *entire* refund via my CC company.
You're altering the terms of the deal, pray *I* don't decide that the deal is no longer valid & demand retribution.
Because YOU claim we're only RENTING that OS, that means any change you make is a change of said contract & subject to my legal right to reject said changes.
I don't like them, back does the computer, & you kiss those profits goodbye.
Treat others as you wish to be treated.
You keep treating us like shit & we'll return the favor.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @05:38AM (22 children)
Here's the option you should have chosen: do not use Windows 10. I smelled a big fat MS rat long before 10 was released. Them giving it away so freely- big red flag. Persistently trying to force the "upgrade" on people- gigantic red flag. I considered putting it on 1 machine just to mess with it, get to know it, etc., but decided I have much better things to do, learn, spend time on, etc.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @05:59AM (5 children)
Wait, are you saying it is Red Flag Windows? I always thought it was Red Flag Linux, the Chinese Linux distro. OMG! Trump elected, the whole Russian thing is a distraction: China has bought Microsoft!!!!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @06:42AM (4 children)
Why do you think China needed a custom respin of Windows 10?
They needed it configured to send the hoovered data to themselves instead of the NSA for domestic editions of Windows. Coincindentally, we're talking both the vacuum cleaner company and 'J. Edgar' when we discuss hoovering here.
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Saturday April 08 2017, @06:50AM (2 children)
Doesn't their great firewall of China do this anyway?
jasassin@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0x663EB663D1E7F223
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 08 2017, @01:30PM (1 child)
The firewall only captures data sent to and from the computer. Win10 captures EVERYTHING!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Informative) by kaszz on Saturday April 08 2017, @03:57PM
Kind of true. It will probe your WiFi, even when asked to not.
(Score: 1) by butthurt on Sunday April 09 2017, @05:57AM
"Oh and Mr. Hoover, before you go, I must tell you [...]"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw1QDE-WA4A [youtube.com]
(Score: 2, Insightful) by ShadowSystems on Saturday April 08 2017, @06:10AM (14 children)
I haven't installed Win10 on my machine, nor do I plan on ever buying a machine with Win10 on it.
I too saw the writing on the wall, the red flags, & thought "Oh HELL NO!"
I've had enough of a constant headache in trying to stop the incessent demands to upgrade, batting aside the attempts to sneak the upgrade on me anyway, installing software such as the GWX Control Panel to block it from getting here, and generally being run ragged trying to keep my computer my own.
I long ago decided that my next machine will have some form of Linux on it, thus I'll definitely be upgrading - right the hell off the MS treadmill.
Unfortunately I am the go to computer guy for my friends & family.
Some of them have gone ahead & either purchased a Win10 machine or allowed their copy of Win7/8/8.1 to be "upgraded" to Win10.
Thus I'm stuck trying to support an OS I can't stomach, can't trust, & can't keep all the bazillions of foibles straight so that I can counter them when said folks have troubles.
I end up spending hours each time scraping the various forums, help channels, MS FAQ's & KBA's trying to find out how they've broken $Thing this time, how to fix it, or at least how to try & restore enough functionality so they can go back to getting shit done.
They don't care that MS is giving them the shaft as long as *I* keep trying to help them.
I'm about this >|| close to throwing up my hands & saying "Enough! Fix it your damned self! You didn't take my advice when I told you not to use it, so why should I keep supporting your refusal to let sanity reign? Take it to BestBuy for all I care, I'm done."
*Cough*
*Sigh*
*FrustratedHeadDesk*
I sit here on my Win7 machine & keep working, while they sit at their Win10 machines & have nothing but issues.
Somehow *I'M* the one that's supposed to fix issues for an OS I don't have, can't see, & can only relay a web scrape result to them so they can supposedly follow directions to recover.
We all know they don't follow directions worth a damn else they wouldn't be running Win10 in the first place.
*Gnaws on my navigation cane to keep from screaming*
The last call I got was an Aunt wanting to know why she couldn't do $x anymore in $y.
I didn't know, had to look it up, & the only fix was to uninstall the last Win10 update.
That fixed it for as long as it took for MS to push out another update, at which point it reapplied the previous one & borked $y again.
Cue another call from Aunt wanting to know why...
*Runs screaming from the planet*
(Score: 1) by anubi on Saturday April 08 2017, @09:26AM (6 children)
Being I am an old retired engineer, several of my neighbors have had me over from time to time to go over their machines and clean 'em out. Generally, I have gone through with a few cleaner programs and deleted the stuff they no longer want from their hard drive, then once clean, I run CloneZilla on their machine so next time won't take so long, and keep the file on one of those 1TB portable USB drives. One drive holds all of our backups. And I back up those files as well on yet another terabyte drive. Most of them are grannies and grandpas who are using their machine to communicate with friends and family, so their machine doesn't have a heckuva lotta stuff on it.
Increasingly, I have had to tell these people that once they go to WIN10, I can no longer help them.
I begrudgingly have to let them take it to the Geek Squad. But, they have money. And the latest new, shiny.
I simply don't think its worth it to me to have the latest new, shiny anymore.
It's not like I am trying to impress a MBA boss anymore about my mastery of the latest technology.
If he wants to risk telemetering his stuff all over the net to any interested party, that's no longer my business. He's got money. He can pay whatever it takes. That's the thing about money. If you have plenty of it, you do not have to take the same concerns a lot of us have to.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Saturday April 08 2017, @09:50AM (5 children)
i stopped providing windows support to friends/family in 2000. Since that time, my standard response is, "I'm afraid I cannot do windows support as the system is broken and will be back in an unusable state soon after I fix it. I can, however, upgrade you to linux and will happily provide you with help in getting to use it." There are mkre people that happily took the plunge than I expected!
(Score: 2) by Pino P on Saturday April 08 2017, @05:06PM (2 children)
"I use iTunes Store and Fitbit Connect. Can you upgrade my laptop's Windows operating system to GNU/Linux and keep those working?"
(Score: 1) by tftp on Saturday April 08 2017, @07:37PM
I have a Garmin Vívosmart HR+ with GPS. It is accurate, as opposed to Fitbit. Same story: the browser plugin works on Windows, but not on Linux. I looked around, some people attempted various projects, but all in all it requires support of the manufacturer to do a good job.
But why to look at fitness bands or other odd hardware - I cannot even connect to my company's VPN from Linux Mint 17.3. It connects briefly, works, but in about 1 minute the connection is dropped. It is a known issue with many possible causes. The only thing I do not know is the solution :-( Naturally, the same VPN (L2TP/IPSec with PSK) works fine with any Windows client and is used by many people daily. Do I have to debug OpenVPN now? Why does the same work on Windows?
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Sunday April 09 2017, @06:07AM
> iTunes Store
A quick Web search reveals there's a HOWTO for that:
https://andrewhickey.info/2014/12/03/howto-access-the-itunes-store-in-gnulinux/ [andrewhickey.info]
Another option, of course, is to get a Macintosh computer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @09:34PM
i did the same thing. all family members that i used to help with windows now use various distributions. grandma included. there's no excuse to deal with windows.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @10:33PM
This is the path I have taken. My tech support time has dropped to zero. Ubuntu 16 LTS is Good Enough for desktop users. It has Firefox and Palemoon installs easily. Upgrades may take getting used to. Most things work. Just like win98. Some things don't. Just like win98.
It is the year of the Linux desktop for me.
(Score: 2) by Pino P on Saturday April 08 2017, @05:01PM (5 children)
I haven't installed Win10 on my machine, nor do I plan on ever buying a machine with Win10 on it.
As far as I can tell, a laptop without Windows 10 is either a MacBook, an oversized smartphone running Android or iOS, a Chromebook that threatens to wipe itself if you install anything other than a web browser, or a System76 or Dell purchased sight unseen. Which of these would you recommend for developers who currently use Windows and for non-developers who currently use Windows?
(Score: 1) by ShadowSystems on Saturday April 08 2017, @09:09PM (3 children)
System76 is your best bet, they make laptops to your specifications (the configuration pages are neat!) & you can get one built as you want.
They offer lots of different hardware, you can get your favorite distro installed (they use Ubuntu as default but are willing to install something else if you ask), & they'll even set up any RAID, VPN, or special bits you need running out of the box.
If you call them up & ask nicely, they'll bend over backwards to give you the system you want/need.
I had to decide between one of their laptops & their desktops, I need the power more than the portability, but even their *laptops* can be given a super fast 7th gen Intel with 64GiB of smokin fast ram & an NVMe SSD of capricious capacity.
*Tries to stop my geeky drooling*
Even if you don't go with System76 there are others like Emporer, Think Penguin, & more.
You can get a modern (laptop/desktop) system with great specs at an awesome price, your choice of distro, & support that comes from real people with actual knowledge of the stuff they're supporting.
So give one of them a try, you'll be pleasantly surprised at the levels of professionalism you get out of a vendor that can't fall back on it's giant piles of money & treat you like crap.
*Cough*Microsoft*Cough*
=-)p
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday April 09 2017, @01:17AM
I've used EmperorLinux for about a decade now. They're excellent.
Haven't tried System76 yet, but all of us linux users should support them wherever possible.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Pino P on Sunday April 09 2017, @05:13PM (1 child)
a laptop without Windows 10 is either a MacBook, [iPad + keyboard, Android tablet + keyboard, Chromebook], or a System76 or Dell purchased sight unseen.
System76 is your best bet, they make laptops to your specifications (the configuration pages are neat!) & you can get one built as you want.
By "sight unseen" I meant that I don't think a customer gets to try the screen or keyboard before committing to buying. And unless I'm seriously misreading the starting page [system76.com], a customer still has to start from a limited set of sizes, with none smaller than 14 inches available as of today.
(Score: 2) by urza9814 on Thursday April 13 2017, @11:24AM
FYI, they just introduced a 13" model yesterday:
https://system76.com/laptops/galago [system76.com]
(Score: 1) by DeVilla on Friday April 14 2017, @05:07AM
I'm way too late, but I've had good luck with ZaReason.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @05:01PM
what I did was tell my family that I didn't upgrade to windows 10 because I didnt agree to the eula... sorry can't help you I haven't even seen it up close.
(Score: 2) by rufty on Saturday April 08 2017, @03:33PM
I generally don't use Windows. I've got a Mac with WinXP, Win7, Win8 and Win10 VMs for testing, and a dual-boot Debian/Win10 box for when I need to run Windows software that needs real hardware, generally firmware flashers. So, is there that much I could be leaking from this level of usage?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @11:10AM
Actually, they don’t need to know you are using tethering. They just really want to overcharge you.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 08 2017, @01:09PM (12 children)
Bullshit, options. I don't want Redmond to offer options. I've already opted out. And, I simply cannot understand why more people haven't opted out. There are almost endless choices.
Ubuntu, for starters. I've taken a disliking to Ubuntu for a number of reasons, including that Unity crap. But, Ubuntu is a far superior choice over Microsoft. There are so many distros availalbe, some of them tailored to YOUR needs. Need scientific stuff? There's a science-centric distro. Need music mixing stuff? There's a music distro. Need a home entertainment system? There's an entertainment distro. FFS, people, you have choices - make a choice. Oh - wait - Rush - "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice".
If you CHOOSE to be spied on by Redmond, that is your choice. After all these years, I'm getting kinda tired of hearing the bullshit. Move on, or accept the fact that Redmond owns your lame ass.
Windows 7 was the last possible decent version of Windows. Win8 sucks diseased donkey balls, and Win10 is the disease to be found inside the donkey balls.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Disagree) by Lester on Saturday April 08 2017, @03:15PM (11 children)
Unfortunately you don't have that many options. We are not in the year of linux desktop.
On the other hand, I agree that spyware preinstalled at OS level is unaceptable: Microsoft, apple, android or ubuntu
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 08 2017, @03:33PM (3 children)
Android spyware isn't installed at the OS level. That spyware is installed by the (real) purchasers. Telcos and others, who order the phones by the tens or hundreds of thousands specify exactly what they want - then you buy the pre-loaded spyware from the telcos.
I just wrote "spayware", and corrected it. Now I'm thinking maybe it didn't need to be corrected. If you're buying the spyware from them, then you are their bitch, and they may want to spay you.
Nothing personal in that Lester, just word association is all. Or, misassociation. No mysogenation though, because I'm not Democrat enought.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday April 08 2017, @03:50PM (2 children)
The problem with operator-phones is that you can't de-install software..
Even if it sucks..
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday April 09 2017, @01:24AM (1 child)
It's a huge reason to root them. Most people have no idea how fast their hardware can be when not encumbered by vampire processes. A second reason to kill spyware dead is it really helps to get people to leave you the hell alone. Spam decreases, sales calls fade, junk mail stops clogging your mailbox. Lastly it helps to age out of the most desireable demographic, male 18-30yr old; if there are ad-averse millenials out there, do what you can to cast yourself as 60 years old.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 10 2017, @11:15PM
When I think about rooting, it's essentially just a step to replace the whole OS. Because it simple can't be trusted. The radio-modem still remains but there are other ways to thwart that pathway.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday April 08 2017, @03:53PM (6 children)
Don't let whatever you buy boot with a internet connection to phone-home anything? Let it start with a Linux-nuclear-disc?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 09 2017, @02:38AM (5 children)
Yes, root the device, and install whatever it is you need. I'm not certain, but I think if you start with an Android phone, you pretty much have to stay with Android. (that due to driver issues primarily) But, it need not be spyware-laden Android. I've browsed here and there, and seen enough to know that you can download Android source code, compile and install it.
It looks like a minor pain in the ass - or maybe a major pain if you've never done anything like it. But, in exchange for a few hours of work, you get a phone that YOU pwn instead of being pwn'd. I think it a fair exchange. Those who don't see the point will continue to be pwn'd by which ever marketer manages to sell them a new shiny.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 10 2017, @11:28PM (4 children)
Do you think something like "net-be-es-dee" is doable?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:17AM (3 children)
Possibly - if they have the drivers for BSD. If you go down that road, plan to spend a lot of time on it. That may be silly advice though, because BSD people spend a lot of time on simple installations, LOL.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:41AM (2 children)
So drivers is the killer issue?
I'll guess even Linux won't have any accelerated graphics driver? because that seems to be where many free projects hit the wall.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:27PM (1 child)
Drivers have been a "killer issue" for non-Windows OS's for a long time. My best suggestion, is to start searching for you specific hardware, and search for BSD drivers for that hardware. If the drivers exist, great. If they don't exist, maybe some other unix-like will work. If not - start a project. Or, offer a bounty. That's generally how stuff gets done in the *nix world. People step up and take charge of something because they want that something.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:09PM
I know the drill. Just haven't tried to mess with mobile phones that much. Though they are interesting as they have DRAM + CPU + Screen + USB + Permanent storage + Radio modem + Uninterruptible power supply all integrated into a package almost for free.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by jasassin on Saturday April 08 2017, @06:11AM (13 children)
I have a windows 10 laptop used just to play netflix with the MS Edge browser. Edge is the only browser that does 4K on netflix. Edge doing a max of 4K and Internet Explorer doing 1080p while chrome on any OS only does 720p.
So yeah. It's a vile shitstorm. I really really love netflix I was it all the time now, I think its awesome, but it's a really shitty deal what they are pulling with microsoft and the resolution limits.
I'd love 4K video on chrome. Hell, even 1080p would be great, since I don't have a 4k tv anyway. This 720p bullshit kinda pisses me off.
jasassin@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0x663EB663D1E7F223
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @07:38AM
My Honda Accord has developed a clutch problem. Every time I ...
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @08:08AM (7 children)
I'd rather torrent it. Sure, it's illegal and sometimes immoral, but still better than Win10 :/
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @11:13AM (6 children)
Morale is just a majority consensus. If majority thinks it is not immoral it is not.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 08 2017, @01:14PM (5 children)
Minor nitpick, sorry to be grammar-nazi-like. You meant "Morality is just a majority consensus."
But, I disagree. There are spiritual leaders and philosophers aplenty who can offer you morals, with no need to refer to some consensus. If morality is just a majority consensus, then mob rule is perfectly fine. Sorry, your moral compass is broken.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday April 08 2017, @03:47PM
It's usually only the majority that can enforce any morality actively or passively by letting others do the deeds. So mob rule in the end anyway.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @09:21PM (3 children)
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 08 2017, @11:30PM (2 children)
"If we accept"
You may accept anything. I will not.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @05:16AM (1 child)
Last time I checked you weren't god either.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:25AM
Nope - no god at all. Just a discerning individual. Obviously, you are incapable of discerning much about morals. As stated above, you have morals, or you are just part of the mob rule.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Hyper on Sunday April 09 2017, @01:50PM (3 children)
Why do you need 4k if you don't have a 4k tv?
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Sunday April 09 2017, @09:55PM (2 children)
I didn't say I needed it I said I'd love it. It'd be great to have a non MS browser capable of 4k. Don't you agree?
jasassin@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0x663EB663D1E7F223
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @10:16PM
Agreed. Shame that they will not admit that DRM is a lost cause and just made a single service we can all plug into for $10 a month.
But that would kill movies, dvd sales, make music execs broke, prevent new shows from being created, raise a second holocost this time against musos, kill creativity, and of course start world war 4.
(Score: 2) by Hyper on Monday April 10 2017, @01:54PM
In tne case of Netflix I am puzzled why their app would not do 4K
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Saturday April 08 2017, @09:42AM (2 children)
Not sure how it would take my data off my (Linux) laptop or nas drive.
(Score: 2) by coolgopher on Saturday April 08 2017, @10:32AM (1 child)
Easy, it first reformats non-NTFS partitions to NTFS, the way they were meant to be. No questions asked, as asking wouldn't be userfriendly. Oh, and if you thought about dual booting, good luck after the first update has tidied up your MBR for you...
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Saturday April 08 2017, @04:30PM
Do this is a virus? I thought they were myths. Can I set an iptables rule up to prevent it from Working?
(Score: 4, Interesting) by kaszz on Saturday April 08 2017, @10:10AM
The basic problem that Microsoft has is a permanent no confidence vote from the more insightful part of the technological crowd. So any "we promise" is worthless. Give us the source code - or shut up.
ANY packet sent un-requested will be viewed with full suspicion.
If the Microsoft stuff shall be used, it shall be confined to a virtual machine with a big network condom around it to prevent any communication-diseases it may harbor. And please hammer any software vendors that do the only-works-on-micromess. Don't forget that this suspiciousware may trigger hidden chip bugs, bios code or system management code. Which may make your virtual machine worthless.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 08 2017, @11:43AM
Last year needed a tablet/laptop for couch use. Ended up with a Surface Pro 4, which is great hardware. But Windows 10.
There's really no solid Linux support for the SP4. So I'll just keep pushing on with regular checking most things turned off in O&O Shutup 10.
(Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday April 08 2017, @01:28PM
Put Down Your Coffee
I don't drink coffee.
and Admire the Sheer Amount of Your Data Windows 10 Creators Update Will Slurp
And I don't use Windows 10.
Do writers really think so little of readers that they don't think anyone will read an article which doesn't directly refer to the reader in the headline?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk
(Score: 3, Insightful) by richtopia on Saturday April 08 2017, @05:01PM (2 children)
I can understand Microsoft ignoring everyone posting "I switched to Linux 10 years ago suckers", but I would think that companies paranoid about intellectual property would be very against uploading data to Microsoft. Yet with new processors only supporting Win10 and the end of life coming for Win7 and 8 I don't see much of an alternative.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @01:47PM (1 child)
They are supposed to be able to turn it off. I checked the windows10 machine I use at work. It is still sending data to microsoft.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday April 11 2017, @02:28AM
You got to firewall machines infected with Microsoft and rip out the WiFi hardware (or antenna, simpler).
(Score: 4, Informative) by cellocgw on Sunday April 09 2017, @01:19AM (3 children)
Preaching to the choir here, I suspect, but:
If you are happy w/ Win7 but want a new machine, there's plenty of cracked Win7 install packages out in torrentland. Buy the new machine, install from ISO or equivalent, and off you go.
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:43AM (2 children)
Without trojans?
(Score: 2) by cellocgw on Tuesday April 11 2017, @11:11AM (1 child)
quote: without Trojans? endquote
That is correct; at least the copy I found
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:18PM
How do you verify that?