What is “lunch shaming?” It happens when a child can’t pay a school lunch bill.
In Alabama, a child short on funds was stamped on the arm with “I Need Lunch Money.” In some schools, children are forced to clean cafeteria tables in front of their peers to pay the debt. Other schools require cafeteria workers to take a child’s hot food and throw it in the trash if he doesn’t have the money to pay for it.
In what its supporters say is the first such legislation in the country, New Mexico has outlawed shaming children whose parents are behind on school lunch payments.
Source: The New York Times
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:11PM (14 children)
How is it possible that you cannot perceive the Olympic-sized hypocrisy of your position? (see subject lines)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:16PM (13 children)
See subject, selfish jackass. It's not "you" paying for "me", it's "we" contributing together for the greater benefit for the whole.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:37PM (12 children)
Contributions are given voluntarily.
If a mugger steals your cash, it doesn't matter that he gives it to an orphanage; that's still robbery.
Your position is based solely on religious magic: You've blessed this one robber who calls himself "government", defining his theft as being "contribution"—and then you are surprised there are so many people who are upset about it!
That "contribution" or "taxation" is actually a very ancient, barbaric, uncivilized idea: Tribute paid to the local strong man.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:58PM (3 children)
We have this thing called voting. You should try sometime.
Don't like it? Go to Somalia. You don't have to vote there, there is no government. Go there and live "free."
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:08PM (2 children)
Somalia is the result of a failed State, one ruled by a single-party government based on "scientific" socialism.
That culture of coercion failed; is it surprising that such a culture resulted in a bunch of warlords, which are just simple, explicit forms of government?
In short, the situation in Somalia has very little to do with freedom, libertarianism, capitalism etc., with one exception: A much freer environment for commerce actually gave way to huge gains in the quality of life for the local population, despite the coercion of warlord governments. That free trade has no produced so much more wealth, that it is becoming possible for another parasitic attempt to form a "national" government.
Try again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:21PM (1 child)
You are a teenager, ain't you? If so, then keep it up - I suppose we need your sorts, too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:46PM
Actually I'm pretty sure this troll is TMB. Explains why he's soon butthurt all the time, people shit on his bad ideas and he's so upset he can't even admit it.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Sunday April 09 2017, @10:21PM (7 children)
Contributions are given voluntarily.
That's right. And as someone who lives within the borders of a nation-state that has determined (by the voluntary approval of its denizens [wikipedia.org]) to enter into a contract (here in the US, we call it the constitution) that delegates decision-making authority [wikipedia.org] at "multiple [wikipedia.org] levels [wikipedia.org] to folks who are periodically returned to or replaced in those positions (we call that elections, BTW). What's more, when there are things of major import to the whole of the nation-state, we require broad support (3/4 of state legislatures and 2/3 majorities in both houses of Congress) before those can be implemented. We call that amending the constitution. Or, in your parlance, negotiating changes to the contract.
The result is a broad culture and system of voluntary contractual agreements among the residents of the United States. Don't like the contracts? Make an effort to modify them or go somewhere else.
Interestingly, it was negotiated changes that imposed the "theft" you mention. What's more, 43 of the 50 states have their own version of "theft" as well. If there was a large backlash against such "theft" it would have been widely repealed long ago.
As Oliver Wendell Holmes put it:
I like paying taxes. With it, I buy civilization.
If a mugger steals your cash, it doesn't matter that he gives it to an orphanage; that's still robbery.
Your position is based solely on religious magic: You've blessed this one robber who calls himself "government", defining his theft as being "contribution"—and then you are surprised there are so many people who are upset about it!
That "contribution" or "taxation" is actually a very ancient, barbaric, uncivilized idea: Tribute paid to the local strong man.
Except the parties to the contract (the constitution) have agreed that such taxation is appropriate. If you do not wish to be party to that contract, GTFO.
Why do you hate America?
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by migz on Monday April 10 2017, @07:18AM (6 children)
I was born into apartheid South Africa. I never agreed to that.
Was it right that I was born a slave to laws I never chose? Don't tell me that government is voluntary.
I have seen with my own eyes the barbarism of government theft and oppression.
Perhaps you should not be so quick to tell others how they have voluntarily chosen to support the government of the country into which they have been born.
That contract that you so lovingly use as justification for taxation, exists because of unwanted taxation by the government at the time. Why don't you GTFO, and leave America to it's rightful government - Great Britain? (Tongue firmly in cheek - with pointing)
Btw. I agree 100% that poor kids should get free lunch, but also disagree 100% that taxpayers should foot the bill.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @05:06PM (2 children)
> I was born into apartheid South Africa. I never agreed to that.
You seem to still believe that apartheid is democracy.
I guess you didn't really learn your lesson there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @06:53PM (1 child)
How do you explain the Japanese Internment camps in the United States, smart guy? How about Jim Crow laws, instituting racial segregation in the South?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @02:47AM
If you insist on perfection you will only get failure.
All of those things you list were consitutional violations.
It happens because a democratic government is necessarily composed of imperfect humans.
That doesn't invalidate the social contract of a democracy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:33PM
But frequently, we need to choose to violate one your two points. So, better that poor kids starve or taxpayers pay for them?
(Score: 2) by meustrus on Monday April 10 2017, @08:06PM (1 child)
Yeah, that's what everyone wants. Free stuff from nowhere. And if you don't think too hard about it, your friend Trump will be glad to tell you how he's going to give it to you.
It's thinking like this that lead to our current situation: tax cut after tax cut for the already wealthy, while politicians get to whine and moan about welfare being too expensive while never actually getting off their asses to do anything about it.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 2) by migz on Tuesday April 11 2017, @06:02AM
I never said anything about free stuff from nowhere. I just said taxpayers should not pay for things. Tax is not a willing contribution. Start an NGO that provides school lunches, and I would gladly contribute. However my effective 65% tax makes me feel fairly stingy ATM. And nobody at any of my (government) schools ever received free lunches from the government nor anyone else.