According to a wall clock in a region which observes Daylight Saving Time, one could conceivably obtain 25 hours of sleep in a "24-hour period". =)
That's still covered by the "more than 10 hours" option. Even if you decide to go around the world once per day and thus get a "24 hour period" that approaches infinity, it is still covered.
-- The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
According to a wall clock in a region which observes Daylight Saving Time, one could conceivably obtain 25 hours of sleep in a "24-hour period". =)
That's still covered by the "more than 10 hours" option. Even if you decide to go around the world once per day and thus get a "24 hour period" that approaches infinity, it is still covered.
Brilliant! I was debating whether or not to submit that comment... so nice to see someone take the idea and run with it! I'd never thought about that edge case -- you wouldn't happen to work in QA?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @03:48AM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday April 16 2017, @03:48AM (#494659)
You could actually sleep on the south pole or north pole. Time zones are pretty well toast at that point.
What if you do that and you roll in your sleep? If you roll in your sleep and nobody sees you, did you change time zones?
Also, what frame of reference? How fast, and what is the gravitational field? Different parts of your body will be in slightly different frames of reference. When viewed from one frame of reference, perhaps your left side gets 8 hours of sleep but your right side gets slightly less.
An average of one value is still an average. And a say whose length approaches infinity may well be the only day in your life. Well, strictly speaking, the same can be true for a standard day, but then you are unlikely to be able to participate on this poll.
-- The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
In many fields it is important to have two data points. Once that second data point is acquired you: 1. draw a straight line through those two data points 2. jump up and down 3. yell "we now understand this phenomena completely!" 4. write a paper
-- The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @08:23PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday April 16 2017, @08:23PM (#494925)
That's not how I heard it. At one aircraft company, pre WWII, there were two analysts that made data plots in the flight test department. Some data was extremely hard to get, so that plotter's job was to put a family of curves through one data point (hopefully based on some theory). Other data was readily available but extremely noisy, that plotter had the job of putting a best-fit single line through all the noise.
So, if you were to describe your sleep pattern while stationed on the ISS... 12 days straight sleeping followed by 24 days awake (assuming a 40 minutes period for its orbit). Sure, you can say 8 hours, but using days sounds much more impressive.
If you fly London to NY on a Concorde you can land with the local time being before your departure time. Because you fly faster than the earth's rotation. If you were to do this at the right time of day, you could see two sunrises in the same day.
-- The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
Ha! I knew there was a conspiracy hiding the truth about Concorde being shut down! Mankind's first affordable time machine, allowing for two sunrises the same day cannot be allowed for the masses!
(Score: 3, Funny) by requerdanos on Wednesday April 12 2017, @04:43PM (27 children)
Interestingly, any number of hours from 0 to 24 is accommodated by this poll. Now we really really can't complain about lack of options.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Wednesday April 12 2017, @05:56PM (14 children)
How long is it from: 2017-04-11 12:34:56 until 2017-04-12 12:34:56?
How long is it from: 2017-11-04 12:34:56 until 2017-11-05 12:34:56?
According to a wall clock in a region which observes Daylight Saving Time, one could conceivably obtain 25 hours of sleep in a "24-hour period". =)
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Wednesday April 12 2017, @06:21PM (10 children)
That's still covered by the "more than 10 hours" option. Even if you decide to go around the world once per day and thus get a "24 hour period" that approaches infinity, it is still covered.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by martyb on Wednesday April 12 2017, @06:47PM (2 children)
Brilliant! I was debating whether or not to submit that comment... so nice to see someone take the idea and run with it! I'd never thought about that edge case -- you wouldn't happen to work in QA?
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @03:48AM (1 child)
You could actually sleep on the south pole or north pole. Time zones are pretty well toast at that point.
What if you do that and you roll in your sleep? If you roll in your sleep and nobody sees you, did you change time zones?
Also, what frame of reference? How fast, and what is the gravitational field? Different parts of your body will be in slightly different frames of reference. When viewed from one frame of reference, perhaps your left side gets 8 hours of sleep but your right side gets slightly less.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday April 28 2017, @02:48PM
The same time-dilation problem would arise everywhere except at the equator.
(Score: 2) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:18PM (6 children)
The poll question was about averages. Edges cases don't really apply: unless they are repeated.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:40PM (2 children)
An average of one value is still an average. And a say whose length approaches infinity may well be the only day in your life. Well, strictly speaking, the same can be true for a standard day, but then you are unlikely to be able to participate on this poll.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:30PM (1 child)
In many fields it is important to have two data points. Once that second data point is acquired you:
1. draw a straight line through those two data points
2. jump up and down
3. yell "we now understand this phenomena completely!"
4. write a paper
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @08:23PM
That's not how I heard it. At one aircraft company, pre WWII, there were two analysts that made data plots in the flight test department. Some data was extremely hard to get, so that plotter's job was to put a family of curves through one data point (hopefully based on some theory). Other data was readily available but extremely noisy, that plotter had the job of putting a best-fit single line through all the noise.
(Score: 1) by DECbot on Friday April 14 2017, @05:24AM (2 children)
So, if you were to describe your sleep pattern while stationed on the ISS... 12 days straight sleeping followed by 24 days awake (assuming a 40 minutes period for its orbit). Sure, you can say 8 hours, but using days sounds much more impressive.
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday April 14 2017, @06:27AM
I'm not sure … sleeping 12 days per 36 days means sleeping 1/3 day per day. Same as 8 hours per 24h day.
In another way it however does sound impressive: Sleeping 8*40 minutes per 36 days gives on average just 8 minutes and 32 seconds of sleep per day.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Sunday April 23 2017, @06:05AM
ISS orbit is about 92 minutes.
I love reading geeks commenting about the impossibility to find holes in the question...
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:19PM
The word "Average" will handle that issue. Average over last two day or last 50 years or ... that's where it gets interesting.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:27PM (1 child)
If you fly London to NY on a Concorde you can land with the local time being before your departure time. Because you fly faster than the earth's rotation. If you were to do this at the right time of day, you could see two sunrises in the same day.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by Unixnut on Thursday April 13 2017, @05:51PM
Ha! I knew there was a conspiracy hiding the truth about Concorde being shut down! Mankind's first affordable time machine, allowing for two sunrises the same day cannot be allowed for the masses!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:01AM
Logically, yes. Syntactically, the range includes any number from -∞ to +∞, or even a transfinite number.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Stardaemon on Thursday April 13 2017, @06:17AM (2 children)
Exactly 10 seems to be missing.
(Score: 3, Touché) by martyb on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:31PM (1 child)
Fixed!
Changed "More than 10 hours" to be "10 or more hours".
Many thanks for pointing that out!
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 3, Informative) by cubancigar11 on Monday April 17 2017, @04:37PM
Hey! That's cheating!
(Score: 3, Touché) by jdavidb on Thursday April 13 2017, @12:39PM (2 children)
ⓋⒶ☮✝🕊 Secession is the right of all sentient beings
(Score: 3, Touché) by requerdanos on Thursday April 13 2017, @05:19PM (1 child)
I live on Mars
The Martian day is about 242/3 hours. Would the above choices not be appropriate for your sleep? If not, why not?
(Score: 1) by DECbot on Friday April 14 2017, @05:28AM
Well, I live on... Uh... Above the clouds on Venus in geosynchronous orbit, you insensitive clod!
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 2) by Anne Nonymous on Thursday April 13 2017, @05:39PM (1 child)
> really really can't complain about lack of options.
You underestimate our power.
(Score: 3, Touché) by requerdanos on Thursday April 13 2017, @08:41PM
Touché.
(Score: 2) by KritonK on Sunday April 16 2017, @05:28PM
Those of us who live on Mars would tend to disagree!
(Score: 2, Funny) by Tedderouni on Monday April 17 2017, @07:37PM
https://xkcd.com/1825/ [xkcd.com]
(Score: 1) by fyngyrz on Sunday April 23 2017, @12:52AM
I'm voting from Mars, you intensive clod!