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  • (Score: 2) by martyb on Wednesday April 12 2017, @05:56PM (14 children)

    by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 12 2017, @05:56PM (#492942) Journal

    Interestingly, any number of hours from 0 to 24 is accommodated by this poll. Now we really really can't complain about lack of options.

    How long is it from: 2017-04-11 12:34:56 until 2017-04-12 12:34:56?

    How long is it from: 2017-11-04 12:34:56 until 2017-11-05 12:34:56?

    According to a wall clock in a region which observes Daylight Saving Time, one could conceivably obtain 25 hours of sleep in a "24-hour period". =)

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Wednesday April 12 2017, @06:21PM (10 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday April 12 2017, @06:21PM (#492964) Journal

    According to a wall clock in a region which observes Daylight Saving Time, one could conceivably obtain 25 hours of sleep in a "24-hour period". =)

    That's still covered by the "more than 10 hours" option. Even if you decide to go around the world once per day and thus get a "24 hour period" that approaches infinity, it is still covered.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by martyb on Wednesday April 12 2017, @06:47PM (2 children)

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 12 2017, @06:47PM (#492976) Journal

      According to a wall clock in a region which observes Daylight Saving Time, one could conceivably obtain 25 hours of sleep in a "24-hour period". =)

      That's still covered by the "more than 10 hours" option. Even if you decide to go around the world once per day and thus get a "24 hour period" that approaches infinity, it is still covered.

      Brilliant! I was debating whether or not to submit that comment... so nice to see someone take the idea and run with it! I'd never thought about that edge case -- you wouldn't happen to work in QA?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @03:48AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @03:48AM (#494659)

        You could actually sleep on the south pole or north pole. Time zones are pretty well toast at that point.

        What if you do that and you roll in your sleep? If you roll in your sleep and nobody sees you, did you change time zones?

        Also, what frame of reference? How fast, and what is the gravitational field? Different parts of your body will be in slightly different frames of reference. When viewed from one frame of reference, perhaps your left side gets 8 hours of sleep but your right side gets slightly less.

    • (Score: 2) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:18PM (6 children)

      by Scruffy Beard 2 (6030) on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:18PM (#492990)

      The poll question was about averages. Edges cases don't really apply: unless they are repeated.

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:40PM (2 children)

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:40PM (#493002) Journal

        An average of one value is still an average. And a say whose length approaches infinity may well be the only day in your life. Well, strictly speaking, the same can be true for a standard day, but then you are unlikely to be able to participate on this poll.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:30PM (1 child)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:30PM (#493392) Journal

          In many fields it is important to have two data points. Once that second data point is acquired you:
          1. draw a straight line through those two data points
          2. jump up and down
          3. yell "we now understand this phenomena completely!"
          4. write a paper

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @08:23PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @08:23PM (#494925)

            That's not how I heard it. At one aircraft company, pre WWII, there were two analysts that made data plots in the flight test department. Some data was extremely hard to get, so that plotter's job was to put a family of curves through one data point (hopefully based on some theory). Other data was readily available but extremely noisy, that plotter had the job of putting a best-fit single line through all the noise.

      • (Score: 1) by DECbot on Friday April 14 2017, @05:24AM (2 children)

        by DECbot (832) on Friday April 14 2017, @05:24AM (#493837) Journal

        So, if you were to describe your sleep pattern while stationed on the ISS... 12 days straight sleeping followed by 24 days awake (assuming a 40 minutes period for its orbit). Sure, you can say 8 hours, but using days sounds much more impressive.

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        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday April 14 2017, @06:27AM

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday April 14 2017, @06:27AM (#493849) Journal

          I'm not sure … sleeping 12 days per 36 days means sleeping 1/3 day per day. Same as 8 hours per 24h day.

          In another way it however does sound impressive: Sleeping 8*40 minutes per 36 days gives on average just 8 minutes and 32 seconds of sleep per day.

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        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Sunday April 23 2017, @06:05AM

          by bob_super (1357) on Sunday April 23 2017, @06:05AM (#498185)

          ISS orbit is about 92 minutes.

          I love reading geeks commenting about the impossibility to find holes in the question...

  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:19PM

    by VLM (445) on Wednesday April 12 2017, @07:19PM (#492993)

    The word "Average" will handle that issue. Average over last two day or last 50 years or ... that's where it gets interesting.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:27PM (1 child)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 13 2017, @02:27PM (#493389) Journal

    If you fly London to NY on a Concorde you can land with the local time being before your departure time. Because you fly faster than the earth's rotation. If you were to do this at the right time of day, you could see two sunrises in the same day.

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    • (Score: 2) by Unixnut on Thursday April 13 2017, @05:51PM

      by Unixnut (5779) on Thursday April 13 2017, @05:51PM (#493512)

      Ha! I knew there was a conspiracy hiding the truth about Concorde being shut down! Mankind's first affordable time machine, allowing for two sunrises the same day cannot be allowed for the masses!