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posted by martyb on Tuesday April 18 2017, @09:56PM   Printer-friendly
from the nothing-is-lighter-than-*nothing* dept.

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2017_Phase_I_Phase_II/Evacuated_Airship_for_Mars_Missions

A vacuum airship made of a homogenous material cannot withstand the atmospheric pressure on Earth for any material humans have yet discovered, which can be proven using the critical buckling load of a sphere. However, from an initial analysis of the vacuum airship structure and relationship to atmospheric conditions, Mars appears to have an atmosphere in which the operation of a vacuum airship would not only be possible, but beneficial over a conventional balloon or dirigible. In addition, a multi-layer approach, in conjunction with a lattice, would circumvent the buckling problems of a single homogenous shell. The lattice used to support the two layers of the vacuum airship shell can be made, using modulation of the lengths of the members, to fit the curvature of the vacuum airship precisely by following an atlas approach to the modulation.

The Martian atmosphere has a pressure to density ratio that is very beneficial to the operation of a vacuum airship; this is a result of the high average molecular weight of the atmosphere (relative to other planets in the solar system) and the temperature of the atmosphere, the trend for which can be observed from the ideal gas law. Through a more in-depth analysis of the vacuum airship model, it can be shown that the vacuum airship may theoretically carry more than twice as much payload as a modeled dirigible of the same size, a 40-meter radius, in the Martian atmosphere.

NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC) Program. NBF.


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  • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:28AM (4 children)

    by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:28AM (#496127) Journal

    Given the pressure there, which is from memory somewhere around 1% of sea-level pressure here on Earth, propulsion would also be somewhat difficult - there's not much to push as exhaust unless you are making it yourself (read rockets to give you acceleration) so even if you were to lift something, moving it anywhere once you lifted it would be cute.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday April 19 2017, @04:25AM (2 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday April 19 2017, @04:25AM (#496142) Journal

    Sounds like a job for EmDrive.

    But reeling it into the realm of the real... what about ion drives [wikipedia.org]? They are not supposed to work in the presence of atmosphere, but maybe VASIMR [wikipedia.org] is different.

    The proposal suggests using solar panels on the surface of the airship to power electric motors. Maybe it can remain aloft forever. But if EmDrive was real, both options would require no propellant, unlike an ion drive. If the EmDrive magic was refined to maximum hype levels [nextbigfuture.com], it would be the superior choice.

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    • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Wednesday April 19 2017, @06:03AM

      by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 19 2017, @06:03AM (#496161) Journal

      Yeah, the EMDrive would work - if it does work :P

      Part of the problem with using an Ion Drive though is due to the extreme velocities that it expels the propellant (why they are so efficient in the first place) would create all sorts of wake issues behind the craft - possibly in a dangerous manner to the craft itself even in a very thin atmosphere. I'm not sure though. I'm not saying it is impossible - just that thrust will be very hard. A propeller won't work much at all - there's 100 times less air to grab (and push) but also what is pushed will move easier due to the air it is pushed into not having the same outward pressure.

      Maybe harvesting the ice, then using water as a propellant to create the thrust would work - but again, that means carrying loads of heavy fuel as thrust.

    • (Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Wednesday April 19 2017, @07:17AM

      by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Wednesday April 19 2017, @07:17AM (#496169)

      Something like this might work well on Mars

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionocraft [wikipedia.org]

      The are aka "Lifters". In a nutshell they use high voltage to create thrust. I recall NASA evaluated using them in satellites but it didn't work out for reasons I don't remember. For thrust just point them sideways.

      And here are instructions to build one yourself if so inclined
      http://www.instructables.com/id/High-Voltage-Lifter-Ionocraft/ [instructables.com]

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @06:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @06:17PM (#496463)

    I'm not sure that's a big deal, really -- you just put much bigger fans on the same motor. Thrust, drag, and buoyancy all scale with atmospheric density, so while the thing will be freaking big for a given payload capacity, it shouldn't take inordinate power to push through the thin atmosphere at blimp-like airspeeds. (Of course, blimp-like airspeeds may be a problem if you need to travel upwind...)

    I'm not sure what the scaling law for payload vs. length looks like -- obviously total buoyancy scales with the cube of length, but you have to subtract the structural weight, and I don't know how that varies. Should be no worse than squared, though, right? So if you figure thrust, drag, and payload all scale linearly with density, and with the square of length, then you can just scale an Earth blimp up 10x in every direction. And since they say their vacuum airship design can carry more payload for a fixed size, it would be a smaller envelope for the same payload, thus less drag, and either less thrust required, or more speed available.

    (I'm sceptical of the whole vacuum-airship thing -- the idea of being able to repair it and re-evacuate with no need for a supply of lifting gas is nice, but I'm suspicious of how much damage the "lattice" can take before field repairs become impossible. Patching a blimp, on the other hand, is trivial for small punctures, and manageable for large tears; same goes for damage to the envelope in a semi-rigid airship, although a damaged keel puts you in the same fix as the vacuum airship.)