The ARM partnership between Microsoft and Qualcomm is notable as it expands Windows 10's existing support of x86 chips from Intel and AMD. It also looks set to overcome the constraints of Microsoft's previous ARM effort with Windows RT.
The Snapdragon 835 PCs will run full Windows 10 desktop, which has been compiled natively for Qualcomm's SoCs. They'll also run Win32 apps via an emulator, as well as universal Windows apps. Microsoft billed the forthcoming devices as a "truly mobile, power-efficient, always-connected cellular PC".
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Sunday April 23 2017, @01:56AM
Qualcomm makes some kick ass chips. Microsoft more and more make "Um, WTF" software. So you can buy a tablet that let's Microsoft suck all your personal information into it's black hole.
Not seeing a market segment winner here. IMHO, Qualcomm fucked up with this deal.
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(Score: 2) by KilroySmith on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:02AM (6 children)
It'll be interesting to benchmark the "best of ARM" against the "Best of Intel". Just how close is a quad-core 2 GHz ARM compared with a Skylake Pentium? With native Windows 10, it'll make it a lot easier to compare.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:19AM (5 children)
And Intel will start with the advantage due to the emulator overhead.
Quad core ARM? How about 8 cores (Snapdragon 835)?
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 23 2017, @06:41AM (4 children)
They'll also run Win32 apps via an emulator, as well as universal Windows apps.
Ie, for native software there's no emulation gain to be had.
Anyone has a suggestion for software that is useful to make a comparison with? MS-Word with some CPU sucking macro seems not very representative of real tasks.
Btw translation for the forthcoming devices: "truly stalking, power-efficient, always-spying with nearby phone-home"
(Score: 3, Insightful) by migz on Sunday April 23 2017, @09:09AM (1 child)
> MS-Word with some CPU sucking macro seems not very representative of real tasks.
Pft...Kid you ain't never been anywhere near corporate.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 23 2017, @09:17AM
Yes Word is used. But it may not be the best software to compare processor performance other than for word processing specific use.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday April 23 2017, @12:44PM (1 child)
Starting on http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four/5 [anandtech.com]
Adobe Reader DC
FCAT Processing
3D Particle Movement v2.1
DigiCortex 1.20
Agisoft Photoscan 1.0
Corona 1.3
Blender 2.78
POV-Ray 3.7.1
Cinebench R15
SunSpider 1.0.2
Mozilla Kraken 1.1
Google Octane 2.0
WebXPRT 2013 and 2015
7-Zip
WinRAR 5.40
TrueCrypt (will this be dropped by them for VeraCrypt?)
HandBrake
PCMark8
Chromium Compile
SYSmark 2014 SE
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:34PM
These will run on both Snapdragon 835 PC and x86?
(Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:03AM (2 children)
On top of AMD competition, Intel will be sooo happy with this.
I can feel its former tick-tock (now in 3 steps incarnation) will register some remarkable tachycardia which, if not properly controlled, may degenerate into fibrillation.
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(Score: 2) by butthurt on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:28AM (1 child)
Intel will be tasked with producing ARM's 64-bit cores and other hardware that companies like Apple, Qualcomm, Nvidia, and others base their chip designs off of. [...]
-- https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/16/12507568/intel-arm-mobile-chips-licensing-deal-idf-2016 [theverge.com]
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Sunday April 23 2017, @12:20PM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:01AM (1 child)
ALL NEW MALARIA!!! Now it infects even the left-handed homo sapiens!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @04:18AM
No, it is more like "pull the other one!" Or as the late President George W. Busch said, you cain't get fooled agin!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 23 2017, @04:55PM
Holy Kaopectate, I *don't* think so. When are they going to give up on this idea of just copying Android and iOS? What happened to innovation?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Geezer on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:45PM
It's not a PC. It's a datamining/ad delivery appliance that can run a few useful programs.