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posted by martyb on Sunday April 23 2017, @01:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the but-will-it-run-FillInTheBlank? dept.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-ultralight-pcs-based-on-arm-smartphone-chips-set-for-q4-says-qualcomm/

The ARM partnership between Microsoft and Qualcomm is notable as it expands Windows 10's existing support of x86 chips from Intel and AMD. It also looks set to overcome the constraints of Microsoft's previous ARM effort with Windows RT.

The Snapdragon 835 PCs will run full Windows 10 desktop, which has been compiled natively for Qualcomm's SoCs. They'll also run Win32 apps via an emulator, as well as universal Windows apps. Microsoft billed the forthcoming devices as a "truly mobile, power-efficient, always-connected cellular PC".


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  • (Score: 2) by KilroySmith on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:02AM (6 children)

    by KilroySmith (2113) on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:02AM (#498139)

    It'll be interesting to benchmark the "best of ARM" against the "Best of Intel". Just how close is a quad-core 2 GHz ARM compared with a Skylake Pentium? With native Windows 10, it'll make it a lot easier to compare.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:19AM (5 children)

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Sunday April 23 2017, @02:19AM (#498144) Journal

    And Intel will start with the advantage due to the emulator overhead.

    Quad core ARM? How about 8 cores (Snapdragon 835)?

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    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 23 2017, @06:41AM (4 children)

      by kaszz (4211) on Sunday April 23 2017, @06:41AM (#498198) Journal

      They'll also run Win32 apps via an emulator, as well as universal Windows apps.

      Ie, for native software there's no emulation gain to be had.

      Anyone has a suggestion for software that is useful to make a comparison with? MS-Word with some CPU sucking macro seems not very representative of real tasks.

      Btw translation for the forthcoming devices: "truly stalking, power-efficient, always-spying with nearby phone-home"

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by migz on Sunday April 23 2017, @09:09AM (1 child)

        by migz (1807) on Sunday April 23 2017, @09:09AM (#498240)

        > MS-Word with some CPU sucking macro seems not very representative of real tasks.
        Pft...Kid you ain't never been anywhere near corporate.

        • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 23 2017, @09:17AM

          by kaszz (4211) on Sunday April 23 2017, @09:17AM (#498242) Journal

          Yes Word is used. But it may not be the best software to compare processor performance other than for word processing specific use.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday April 23 2017, @12:44PM (1 child)

        by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Sunday April 23 2017, @12:44PM (#498301) Journal

        Anyone has a suggestion for software that is useful to make a comparison with? MS-Word with some CPU sucking macro seems not very representative of real tasks.

        Starting on http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four/5 [anandtech.com]

        Adobe Reader DC
        FCAT Processing
        3D Particle Movement v2.1
        DigiCortex 1.20
        Agisoft Photoscan 1.0
        Corona 1.3
        Blender 2.78
        POV-Ray 3.7.1
        Cinebench R15
        SunSpider 1.0.2
        Mozilla Kraken 1.1
        Google Octane 2.0
        WebXPRT 2013 and 2015
        7-Zip
        WinRAR 5.40
        TrueCrypt (will this be dropped by them for VeraCrypt?)
        HandBrake
        PCMark8
        Chromium Compile
        SYSmark 2014 SE

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        • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:34PM

          by kaszz (4211) on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:34PM (#498475) Journal

          These will run on both Snapdragon 835 PC and x86?