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posted by LaminatorX on Friday February 21 2014, @07:45AM   Printer-friendly
from the Gnomes-for-Theo dept.

joekiser writes:

"Antoine Jacoutot has given a status update for GNOME users of OpenBSD, including a short video. The GNOME release has been updated to 3.10.2, and auto-mounting of devices is now supported through a new helper program, toad. Now is a great time for desktop users to test the upcoming OpenBSD release. The ports tree was recently locked for stability testing ahead of the 5.5 release, meaning that recent -CURRENT builds are very close to what will be released in May. Antoine also addresses the upcoming issues non-Linux systems face with GNOME, such as the upcoming hard dependency on systemd."

[ED Note: I ran an OpenBSD router box years ago when tinkering about with an old PII with four NICs seemed worthwhile. The OS lived up to it's rep, but it never occurred to me to use it for a desktop system. Are any Soylentils using OpenBSD for a GNOME-based workstation?]

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 21 2014, @08:35PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 21 2014, @08:35PM (#4526)

    > FreeBSD also has some ACPI support for power management that OpnBSD lacks

    OpenBSD is generally considered to have better ACPI support than FreeBSD, especially on laptops (including suspend/resume and hibernate). Also, OpenBSD's KMS support is further along, and other BSDs tend to pull in the fixes from OpenBSD first.

  • (Score: 1) by evilviper on Saturday February 22 2014, @02:20AM

    by evilviper (1760) on Saturday February 22 2014, @02:20AM (#4656) Homepage Journal

    OpenBSD is generally considered to have better ACPI support than FreeBSD, especially on laptops (including suspend/resume and hibernate).

    You got that completely, totally, and utterly BACKWARDS and wrong.

    OpenBSD didn't get ACPI working until 2011:
    http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=201 00802212025 [undeadly.org]

    FreeBSD's ACPI support dates back to at least 2001:
    http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=acpi&apro pos=0&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-RELEASE&arch=d efault&format=html [freebsd.org]

    Also, OpenBSD's KMS support is further along

    Maybe so, but not by much, and IMHO KMS is a misfeature, anyhow, that I'd prefer to be without, even on Linux.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 22 2014, @03:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 22 2014, @03:37AM (#4668)

      If you had read the post you replied to, you'd know he didn't mention temporal precedence, just better quality. You could have asked him for some evidence to back his claims.

      Paying so little attention it's no wonder you favor a slow, outdated and insecure system.

      • (Score: 1) by evilviper on Saturday February 22 2014, @05:32AM

        by evilviper (1760) on Saturday February 22 2014, @05:32AM (#4700) Homepage Journal

        I listed dates only because it demonstrates how laughably ridiculous the claim was. I know quite well that he's completely wrong. I wouldn't ask for sources from someone who claimed the moon is made of cheese, either. At best, that would make it seem that there's any possibility he's no utterly wrong, which he is. He was free to provide citation up-front, and is still able to provide them now, even though I didn't ask for them.

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    • (Score: 1) by Anthony J. Bentley on Saturday February 22 2014, @04:26AM

      by Anthony J. Bentley (2757) on Saturday February 22 2014, @04:26AM (#4681)

      Also, OpenBSD's KMS support is further along

      Maybe so, but not by much, and IMHO KMS is a misfeature, anyhow, that I'd prefer to be without, even on Linux.

      Why would KMS be a misfeature? It allows for faster graphics drivers and better security: graphics hardware access gets restricted to the kernel instead of the X process; and X is something you want to have as little privilege as possible, as described for example in this talk [media.ccc.de]. (If you have the time, that talk is definitely worth watching all the way through.) In current OpenBSD snapshots it's already possible to disable aperture access [openbsd.org] while using KMS drivers.

      • (Score: 1) by evilviper on Saturday February 22 2014, @05:40AM

        by evilviper (1760) on Saturday February 22 2014, @05:40AM (#4703) Homepage Journal

        KMS is a misfeature, because restarting X11 doesn't reinitialize the graphics driver anymore. If your video card driver has ANY bugs at all, you have to reboot the entire system, rather than being able to restart X11. I've seen this first-hand with older Intel graphics.

        It's patently anti-Unix philosophy to have booting-up to a text console depend on something as large and complex as graphical video card drivers. Now instead of an upgrade possibly breaking graphics, it renders your system entirely unusable even from the command-line where you might fix it. Prioritizing graphics performance over system stability is utterly wrong-headed.

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