I was reading this article and thought it might be a good submission as a follow up to the post about Comey's firing.
I held back, as I thought it might already be referenced in the comments. As such, I went back and, as I was reading through the comments, came across this gem from VLM:
Could someone explain the Russia conspiracy theory?
It seems to be anointed queen in waiting lost because she sucked and the electorate hates her although the elites love her, therefore someone is to blame, and it can't be her and it can't be the D party leadership, so obviously it was gremlins or space aliens or ... I know, Russians!
Is there anything to it beyond "argh matey here be tinfoil internet pirate hats"
This got me thinking about the various ways in which we (Americans) have allowed ourselves to be divided, and discussion has devolved into demonization and wacky conspiracy theories.
I posted the following as a response (with minor changes) to VLM:
Regardless of whether the outcome would have been the same, the Russians continue to use active measures (as they have for decades) to influence public opinion in countries of interest for them. This includes the US, UK, France, much of the former Soviet bloc and FSM (okay, FSB) knows where else.
The rise of social media and the ridiculous conspiracy theories* of the right in the US have primed the public to accept fake news (that is, lies intended to pollute public discourse) as long as it comports with their existing biases. That, and demonizing political opponents has weakened our political system and allowed folks like the Russians to muddy the waters and make it more difficult for us to work together to address the issues we all face.
It's appropriate that we all stand together to identify and understand how our public discourse and political system are being affected by those who wish to weaken, destabilize and/or harm the US.
*Partial list of right-wing conspiracy theories. Feel free to add any left-wing ones you think appropriate.
Pizzagate
Birtherism
Jade Helm
Common Core will turn your kids gay
Agenda 21
Sharia Law coming to your town
Plans for firearms confiscation
FEMA Concentration Camps
Clinton death squads
I posit that by promoting bald-faced lies as truth and attempting to discredit those with whom we disagree, we open ourselves up to just the sort of stuff that Russia has been trying (and with the expansion of news bubbles, aided by social media, being more successful) to do for decades.
I chose not to submit the Reuters article, as it seemed to be more of a piece with the Comey firing article. What's more, even though many sources were cited, the core source(s) were anonymous. I'm sure that if there's truth to the allegations, we'll hear more about it soon.
All the same, it seems appropriate for the US to examine the role of external actors on its political and information ecosystems.
Just because the folks attempting to sway public opinion with lies are doing so at the expense of your political enemies, they are not your friends, and should not be defended or given a pass on their interference in our system.
Such actors are a threat to our national interests and should be treated as such by all of us.
I guess the question becomes, are you an American first, or a [Republican|Democrat|Libertarian|Alt-Right|Communist|Socialist|Whatever] first?
I'm an American. And my fellow Americans (regardless of political stripe) are valued members of my society. Let's work together to make our country successful for all of us. Doing so will benefit society as a whole, socially, economically and politically.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday May 11 2017, @10:39AM (1 child)
Here's another one:
Snopes [skepticallibertarian.com] is a socialist/liberal [factcheck.org] shill site [snopes.com].
BTW, it took me all of 90 seconds to find and look through the links above. Are you that lazy? Do you have some sort of agenda? Or are you just an idiot?
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:29PM
A guy that I correspond with on a technical topic sometimes wanders into discussing politics. He tried to convince me that Snopes was all "liberal". He didn't get very far, I go with the opinions expressed in the links that NotSanguine found.