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Microsoft's only choice to move forward is to throw the Win32 baby out with the bathwater. And that brings us to the introduction of Windows 10 S.
Windows 10 S is just like the Windows 10 you use now, but the main difference is it can only run apps that have been whitelisted to run in the Windows Store. That means, by and large, existing Win32-based stuff cannot run in Windows 10 S for security reasons.
To bridge the app gap, Microsoft is allowing certain kinds of desktop apps to be "packaged" for use in the Windows Store through a tooling process known as Desktop Bridge or Project Centennial.
The good news is that with Project Centennial, many Desktop Win32 apps can be re-purposed and packaged to take advantage of Windows 10's improved security. However, there are apps that will inevitably be left behind because they violate the sandboxing rules that are needed to make the technology work in a secure fashion.
"A casualty of those sandboxing rules is Google's Chrome browser. For security reasons, Microsoft is not permitting desktop browsers to be ported to the Store."
(Score: 3, Interesting) by fyngyrz on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:44PM (8 children)
Don't think so. My laptop is a Mac. Which is running, among other things, VMWARE. My desktop, likewise. VMWARE on both in turn is hosting Windows XP, completely isolated from the network in both cases. I am fairly confident that because of this, all my win32 apps will continue to work into the indefinite, but far, future, regardless of how I upgrade my Macs. It'll continue to gain the benefits of faster and faster processors, as will all the win32 apps running within it. I've never had to upgrade past XP. The only real trick to keeping XP solid is to keep it away from the net, which I do. The XP image is fully backed up; it's completely recoverable, which I have verified as I have moved from older Macs to newer Macs.
There hasn't been anything actually new I needed to run under Windows since XP came out. Perhaps there will be something in the future. Can't imagine what at this point, but perhaps. It'd have to be both fabulously interesting and have no Mac equivalent. Seems.... unlikely.
That would be interesting to watch. From a safe distance. 🙅♂️
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:59PM (4 children)
you have a mac with vmware that's running windows? you couldn't have made a more disgusting pile of slaveware shit if you tried. congratulations, you are a gigantowhore!
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Thursday May 11 2017, @03:17PM (3 children)
Sure I could. Did, in fact: Running two different distributions of linux under VMWARE, too. Just didn't mention that as it wasn't to topic, but seeing as how you've brought how deep the pile is into play, I'll roll with it.
It all runs very smoothly. Even with all of the OS's running at the same time. Great fun, and a highly productive environment to work in, bouncing back and forth as needed, sharing files, etc.
But I am sorry you're not having nearly as much fun as I am. 😉
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:00PM (2 children)
"Even with all of the OS's running at the same time."
I've daydreamed about that. I work with some troglodytes, and they work on crap equipment. I'd like to bring my laptop in, prop it up, and boot to Linux. Anyone looking over my shoulder will recognize immediately that it isnt' Windows. So, I offer to run Windows for them. Five different versions of Windows, at the same time, all of them running faster and smoother than the Windows on their machines.
Of course, the trogs wouldn't even begin to appreciate that. Firing up a Mac clone at the same time might impress a couple of the more knowlagable, but I'm not even sure of that.
We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Friday May 12 2017, @05:03AM (1 child)
How's it handle OpenGL?
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 12 2017, @02:20PM
Proprietary Nvidia driver, with the Nvidia GL rendering works fine for me. I know, if I were the complete Lunix nut, I'd refuse to install the blob. But, the blob works for me, and I've never yet found a real reason to distrust it. Given a few stories similar to Intel's history, I would learn to distrust Nvidia, but so far, I'm good with it.
We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
(Score: 2) by Pino P on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:03PM (1 child)
an OEM Windows license is tied* to an individual motherboard
My laptop is a Mac. Which is running, among other things, VMWARE.
I imagine very few Macs ship with an OEM Windows license. Those that do would come from an obscure value-added reseller, not from Apple.
There hasn't been anything actually new I needed to run under Windows since XP came out. Perhaps there will be something in the future. Can't imagine what at this point, but perhaps. It'd have to be both fabulously interesting and have no Mac equivalent.
I guess it depends on what you consider "equivalent", particularly for things like video games. For example, would you consider Dr. Mario "equivalent" to Tetris? Or Overwatch "equivalent" to Team Fortress 2?
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Thursday May 11 2017, @09:35PM
Yeah, I have no idea. I purchased my XP licenses long, long ago, when XP was actually a thing for Microsoft. My Macs aren't new, either. Newest is a 2009 12/24 core, 64 GB 3 GHz desktop. I'm happy with it. Which is a good thing, because I wouldn't buy one of Apple's current Mac Pros, they don't suit me at all. Supposedly they're going to do something better, but I'm not holding my breath.
I don't play video games on desktops or laptops at all. I have a couple full size stand-up arcade machines – I used to design the gaming hardware, and I've written sound code and game code for them in various combos at various times. I've worked for Centuri, Bally-Midway, and a couple of boutique firms, one of which was really a Bally-Midway twig of sorts. Crazy place. I've also got most of the consoles, at least the recent ones. Basically, I prefer a dedicated platform.
My idea of "playing" on my computers is a long session – coding, listening, more coding, more listening – with my SDR application. [fyngyrz.com] Or fooling about with my macro language. [github.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:57PM
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. Does anybody here speak emoji?