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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday May 11 2017, @08:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the one-small-orbit-for-man dept.

Buzz Aldrin has said that NASA should stop spending $3.5 billion per year on the International Space Station and relinquish low Earth orbit activities to private companies, such as SpaceX, Orbital ATK, Boeing, Bigelow Aerospace, and Axiom Space. This would allow for the funding of "cyclers" to enable a base on the moon and eventually a permanent presence on Mars:

http://www.space.com/36787-buzz-aldrin-retire-international-space-station-for-mars.html

Establishing private outposts in LEO is just the first step in Aldrin's plan for Mars colonization, which depends heavily on "cyclers" — spacecraft that move continuously between two cosmic destinations, efficiently delivering people and cargo back and forth. "The foundation of human transportation is the cycler," the 87-year-old former astronaut said. "Very rugged, so it'll last 30 years or so; no external moving parts."

Step two involves the international spaceflight community coming together to build cyclers that ply cislunar space, taking people on trips to the moon and back. Such spacecraft, and the activities they enable, would allow the construction of a crewed lunar base, where humanity could learn and test the techniques required for Mars colonization, such as how to manufacture propellant from local resources, Aldrin said. Then would come Earth-Mars cyclers, which Aldrin described as "an evolutionary development" of the prior cyclers.

[...] NASA officials have repeatedly said that the ISS is a key part of the agency's "Journey to Mars" vision, which aims to get astronauts to the vicinity of the Red Planet sometime in the 2030s.

Is the ISS a key part of the "Journey to Mars" or a key roadblock?


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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday May 11 2017, @08:55PM (5 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday May 11 2017, @08:55PM (#508319) Journal

    Is the ISS really useful? If we develop inflatable module technology some more, it might be possible to get an ISS-sized station in orbit for much cheaper than the ISS construction cost. Launch costs have also fallen.

    What is it that we are doing or could do with ISS that is so great? A dark matter detector? A gas station for reaching other destinations? A sustainable Moon or Mars base on the other hand could expand and feed itself using raw materials collected on site. If it is sustainable and does not require periodic resupply, it can be expanded to any desired size.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by melikamp on Thursday May 11 2017, @09:28PM (1 child)

    by melikamp (1886) on Thursday May 11 2017, @09:28PM (#508332) Journal
    I am all for Moon base, I think it would be waaaaay more useful and fun than a Mars base.
    • (Score: 2) by arslan on Thursday May 11 2017, @11:08PM

      by arslan (3462) on Thursday May 11 2017, @11:08PM (#508385)

      As long as we don't accidentally blow it up... otherwise the dolphins won't be too happy

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 11 2017, @10:31PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 11 2017, @10:31PM (#508368) Journal

    Is the ISS really useful? If we develop inflatable module technology some more, it might be possible to get an ISS-sized station in orbit for much cheaper than the ISS construction cost. Launch costs have also fallen.

    My view is that for what was spent on the ISS, we could have launched two or three ISS into space any point in the past few decades just by not using the Space Shuttle (and retiring the Shuttle back in 1990) and eliminating the international aspect of the ISS, but otherwise keeping its capabilities.

    Not using the Shuttle and instead discontinuing the Shuttle in 1990 would have resulted in a modest hit to the volume of individual station components, but an enormous reduction in launch costs. I estimate around 30 billion USD.

    One would see somewhat similar savings from cutting out the meandering path that the ISS took from beefy national prestige project to enormous international money sink which among other things required numerous redesigns of the station to incorporate projects from all the ISS partners. I think at least 20 billion USD.

    Then there would be some modest economies of scale from building multiple copies of the ISS structure resulting in the final estimates of 2-3 structures for 100 billion USD. That's not even discussing the enormous savings possible from taking NASA out of the loop or the significant improvement from putting SpaceX in the loop, particularly, its Falcon Heavy.

  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Friday May 12 2017, @04:12AM (1 child)

    by frojack (1554) on Friday May 12 2017, @04:12AM (#508463) Journal

    We've done all the science that we need to do at the ISS.

    It now serves as nothing more than a mountain survival hut.
    A great place to seek shelter if you happen to need it - if you can get there.

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    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday May 12 2017, @12:28PM

      by kaszz (4211) on Friday May 12 2017, @12:28PM (#508579) Journal

      A underground facility on the Moon or Mars would be a shelter. The ISS would be roadkill if things get really bad.