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Geekwire reports that Puppet, the company behind the eponymous configuration management software, is set to expand to Seattle, Sydney and Singapore. The company already has offices in Belfast and Portland.
Chef, perhaps Puppet's great rival in the burgeoning field known as DevOps, is headquartered in Seattle, which sets up an interesting battle for talent over the next few years. A lot of Bay Area companies have opened up offices in Seattle after tiring of the talent wars in California [...]
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If you have used either or both of Puppet or Chef, how has it worked out for you? If you've tried both, which did you decide to use and what influenced your decision?
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday May 12 2017, @07:23PM (10 children)
I've read there's a severe gender imbalance in Seattle, ie you won't find any girl..
Oh.. and Microsoft.
(Score: 2) by cafebabe on Friday May 12 2017, @07:50PM (4 children)
Seattle is a well-known sausagefest [returnofkings.com] but it has 2527 furries [meetup.com].
1702845791×2
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 12 2017, @07:57PM (1 child)
That makes it all better then?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 12 2017, @08:04PM
Amazon sells fleshlights.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday May 13 2017, @03:29AM
Bigfoot, or other?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 3, Informative) by kaszz on Saturday May 13 2017, @05:45AM
Neat.. Seems Seattle has the most feminists per capita [returnofkings.com]:
1. Seattle – Tacoma
Even though it’s only the 15th most populated center in America, it had the highest FPC, scoring 2.77 standard deviations above the mean. For those of you who don’t know math, let me tell you that that’s insane. I’ve never been there before so can someone tell me is it just a city of ugly feminists walking around with Skrillex haircuts and stupid tattoos?
As long as women have the gender ratio in their favor these perverted views may flourish.
Sorry Microshaft, Amasuck and Puppet. Any tech worker that does due diligence will be very wary of moving to Seattle. Bad choice. It seems to be the city where it always rains both in a metaphoric sense and in the physical.
Are fleshlights, dolls and feminist radar app, tax deductible in Seattle? :P
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday May 12 2017, @08:12PM (4 children)
I've read the same thing, that it's #2 for a bad male/female ratio only to the Bay Area.
The other thing I've read over and over about it is that you can't get high-speed internet service at home there within Seattle city limits (but it's ok in the other municipalities).
Yeah, MS is there but they're not that close to actual Seattle, they're way over in Redmond. The main tech giant in Seattle proper is Amazon.
So does anyone who actually lives/lived there have any better testimony to offer about Seattle? Is it a great place to work or does it suck?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 12 2017, @08:27PM
I heard everyone is homeless in Seattle so they don't have homes for dialup internet at home. And there's mobile coverage so who cares about wired internet anyway.
(Score: 2) by mechanicjay on Friday May 12 2017, @08:42PM
Comcast, CenturyLink (Frontier in some areas?) are the main ISP's that service Seattle. You likely have a choice between Comcast and CL . Century Link is busy deploying 1 Gig fiber around Seattle. For real high-speed internet, Comcast was the only choice, until CL stared their deployment a year or so ago. Before that it was DSL only -- which I suffered with till the fiber came to my neighborhood. That was more important to me than giving Comcast any money.
I work on the North End and it's pretty great here. I'd probably want to kill myself if I had to get downtown all the time though. The social scene can be very insular/introverted around here, so it can be hard to settle in if you don't find a group to fall in with right away. This is getting better as the tech sector imports 10K+ / year -- ie. more people are from somewhere else. This of course leads to friction with the folks who've been here forever. In other words, same as anywhere else that's in a boom.
My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday May 13 2017, @03:41AM (1 child)
Really? That's terrible. Say what you will about New York City, but its male/female ratio is 40/60. For geeks it's even more favorable than that in practice because in the population of young available males with disposable income there are otherwise finance types or advertising dorks. Bankers are boring, shallow, and aggressive (and often not very bright). Ad dorks are flighty and effete. So against that competition being merely socially awkward is not so bad with the ladies.
I have a vague recollection that there's someplace in the Baltics or former Soviet Republics with a decent tech scene and even better ratio, but I forget which (Estonia...?)
A high school buddy of mine runs PeopleSoft systems for Amazon in Seattle, so his life sucks. Unrelenting pressure and constant terror. My cousin is a coder for Weyerhaeuser there. But he's crazy so it's gotta suck for everybody else who works with him. Also, it rains a lot there.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Saturday May 13 2017, @06:05PM
Say what you will about New York City, but its male/female ratio is 40/60. For geeks it's even more favorable than that in practice because in the population of young available males with disposable income there are otherwise finance types or advertising dorks.
I used to live close to NYC and visited there a bunch of times since it was a 1-hour bus ride away. There's a few problems with your logic.
First off, if you're on this site you're likely a techie/geek as you mention. The problem there is that there isn't much work in that area, unless you're a web developer or you're in financial programming. I do embedded programming, C, C++ etc., and my job prospects were almost nil on the NY side of the Hudson. (Now if you do web dev, yeah, there's lots of that work there, so obviously this is biased towards my specialty.) I did interview for a couple of finance jobs but that didn't go too far, and from what I could tell the working hours were insane. They also didn't seem to be too interested in people coming from a non-finance background. And honestly, financial programming is seriously soul-sucking.
However if you're thinking geeks will do well with the ladies there, think again. Geeks don't make as much as bankers and admen, and can't afford swank condos usually, so you're not going to attract too many women there with your earning power. And geeks do not command any kind of social respect in this country overall the way bankers do. And from what I saw on the dating sites, NYC women really want to date men who read a lot of hip, contemporary literature. You can probably find some women who are lower down the socioeconomic ladder, but you're probably not going to do well with educated professionals.
It still sounds a lot better than working for Amazon though.
BTW, the rain in Seattle sounds like a plus for me. I hate hot, summer days and sunshine gives me sunburn.
(Score: 2) by mrpg on Friday May 12 2017, @07:34PM
I like Ansible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansible_(software) [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday May 12 2017, @07:48PM (1 child)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 12 2017, @08:02PM
pssh ...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 12 2017, @08:10PM
and turned to ansible for sanity
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 12 2017, @08:21PM (2 children)
These companies are tired of the talent wars in California, so they all open offices IN THE SAME CITY? They got the whole country to choose from and they all open Seattle offices? Why anyone would willingly pursue an MBA is beyond me.
(Score: 1) by butthurt on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:04AM
Yes, the article made the same observation right where I left off quoting it.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday May 13 2017, @05:56AM
It might be that a city needs a critical number of employment opportunities to even have people in the city that are employable.
(Score: 3, Informative) by mr_mischief on Friday May 12 2017, @09:32PM (5 children)
Houston has a low cost of living for a city its size. It has more to recommend it.
Houston's home to Rice University, the University of Houston system, Texas Southern University, University of St. Thomas, University of Texas' MD Anderson Cancer Center, Baylor College of Medicine, Strayer University, and Houston Baptist University. Schools in other fairly nearby towns include Lamar University in Beaumont, UT Austin, Texas A&M in College Station, Texas A&M Galveston campus, University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, Prairie View A&M in Prairie View, Baylor University in Waco, and Stephen F. Austin State University in Nacogdoches. A little farther out are UT Dallas, UT San Antonio, Texas A&M Corpus Christi, TCU in Dallas, Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas A&M at Dallas, University of Texas at Arlington, andTexas Tech in Tyler. Lots of other schools are around, too.
There's a world class medical center featuring many medical schools, hospital systems, and medical research facilities.
The energy industry is a huge user of IT services, and Houston is the energy company capital of the world.
The Port of Houston is the busiest port by tonnage and second busiest port by dollar value of items shipped of any in the US.
The public transit system is poor and the people-moving industry is ripe for disruption.
There's hosting space around town. SoftLayer, Cyrus One, and others have data centers.
There's warehouse space everywhere.
There are two international airports in town. There's IAH (George H.W. Bush Intercontinental Airport) on the north end and HOU (William P. Hobby) on the south end.
There's the Johnson Space Center which has quite a bit of technical staff and contractors.
There are various software companies, Texas Instruments, a Toshiba facility, and more. Compaq used to be in Houston before the merger with HP.
The weather's nice most of the year, and there's air conditioning the rest of the year.
It's the most diverse city in the country.
What it doesn't have yet is the highly competitive tech labor market and tons of venture capital in the pure tech play space, but it's got the ingredients to make a couple of early movers in that style of company really happy. It has the kindling ready. It just needs a spark.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday May 13 2017, @03:46AM (1 child)
All that is true, but Houston's a conservative town, man. As a tech guy looking to relocate to Texas, I'd go for Austin. Much more progressive, with lots of interesting currents of culture and tech flowing through the area thanks to SXSW and it's many offshoots.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by mr_mischief on Tuesday May 16 2017, @04:50PM
Houston's on the blue side of purple, and especially in the city center. The further out in certain suburbs you go, the more conservative it is. That's true in many places.
Austin is pretty well liberal through and through outside the capitol. Now if we can just continue to pull that building towards some sense...
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday May 13 2017, @06:03AM (2 children)
The public transit system is poor and the people-moving industry is ripe for disruption.
As in needing a replacement that engineers can be helpful with (ie job..) ?
It's the most diverse city in the country.
In ideas or race tension?
Then it is of course Texas which has it's own set of values perhaps not so compatible with free thinkers?
Having a recent statute banning the sales of dildos and other sexual toys is a sign screaming "HEY RETARDS HERE!". Alabama sure is competing in this field.
(Score: 2) by mr_mischief on Monday May 15 2017, @07:31PM (1 child)
Yes, "ripe for disruption" means there's an opportunity, as always.
I don't know the racial tension of which you speak. Houston is by many measures the most racially diverse city in the US.
This recent statute banning dildos in Texas needs a citation, please. Are you calling 1973 recent or its resounding defeat in the courts in 2008?
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday May 16 2017, @02:22PM
Yes, "ripe for disruption" means there's an opportunity, as always.
In what way is the current system inadequate? and in what way should it be improved?
I don't know the racial tension of which you speak. Houston is by many measures the most racially diverse city in the US.
And this works without a unproportional number robberies, assaults and rape compared with other similar sized cities?
This recent statute banning dildos in Texas needs a citation, please. Are you calling 1973 recent or its resounding defeat in the courts in 2008?
The defeat in courts in 2008 probably put a final (for now) lid on it. But it shouldn't need to dealt by courts at all. It's completely private matter. What happens between consenting adults in private areas is of no business to others. Or in this case between one adult an a machine that doesn't even a AI.
(Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Saturday May 13 2017, @02:26AM
our company reviewed management/scripting packages a while back and went with salt. much easier to scale out due to its master/slave and master/master modes. we've been happy with it.