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posted by n1 on Thursday May 18 2017, @01:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the smoke-the-competition dept.

As corporations, citizens and governments continue to urge the Trump administration to stick with the Paris Climate Agreement, a new analysis is undercutting one of the climate naysayers primary objections:

China and India are actually years ahead of their climate commitments.

Those, at least, are the findings from Climate Action Tracker which suggest that scaling back of coal consumption in both countries is likely to be enough to 'cancel out' the expected slowing down of progress by the United States under President Trump. India, for example, had pledged to lower the emissions intensity by 33 to 35 percent by 2030 compared to 2005 levels. The new analysis suggests they will leap past that mark to a 42 to 45 percent cut in emissions intensity by 2030.


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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:41AM (7 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:41AM (#511511) Journal

    "The US has just 1 ultra efficient coal plant. China has 90."

    Well, AC - I find that difficult to believe. I guess I'll just have to do a little research to verify your claim. Can't do it at this time, but I hope to get back to this when I get home from work.

    If China has 90 super efficient coal plants, how many do they have that use shoddy technology, comparable to US coal plants in the 1950's? How many coal plants total? I've pictured Chinese coal generators belching black columns into the atmosphere, just as I witnessed at Penn Power's coal plant in West Pittsburgh, Pa, up through about 1970 or so.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Zyx Abacab on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:56AM (2 children)

    by Zyx Abacab (3701) on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:56AM (#511514)

    Until someone coughs up something the Ancients called "evidence", this is no more than schoolyard bickering.

    But if I had to put money down, I'd definitely put it on Runaway1956....

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18 2017, @03:18AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18 2017, @03:18AM (#511518)

      > Until someone coughs up something the Ancients called "evidence", this is no more than schoolyard bickering.

      Are neither you able to click the provided link?

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18 2017, @03:27AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18 2017, @03:27AM (#511523)

        You're not the boss of us!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Whoever on Thursday May 18 2017, @03:27AM (3 children)

    by Whoever (4524) on Thursday May 18 2017, @03:27AM (#511522) Journal

    Runaway1956: Typical Trump voter: can't see the information when it's right in front of his face.

    Can't accept the facts when they contradict his worldview.

    • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:49PM (2 children)

      by linkdude64 (5482) on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:49PM (#511697)

      As a bystander here, my first thought is, "Right, because China never lies about its air quality." If you know absolutely anything about China, you will know of their AQI scores in the bigger cities like Beijing and how when they say, "Perfectly safe air today in Glorious China! Pregnant women - go have a jog!" translates, in reality, to people wearing face masks to prevent their lungs and/or eyes from burning.

      • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Thursday May 18 2017, @10:22PM (1 child)

        by Whoever (4524) on Thursday May 18 2017, @10:22PM (#511865) Journal

        And, as I told another poster: you are an idiot who doesn't recognize that particulates and CO2 are different.

        • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Saturday May 20 2017, @04:55AM

          by linkdude64 (5482) on Saturday May 20 2017, @04:55AM (#512522)

          The fact of an environmental organization lying about particulates released to the atmosphere is not mutually exclusive to them lying about gases they release to the atmosphere in any way. In syntax you may understand: China lie about environment. China lie about particulates. China lie about gases? Me no know. That is the entire extent of the suggestion in my original comment.