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posted by n1 on Thursday May 18 2017, @01:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the smoke-the-competition dept.

As corporations, citizens and governments continue to urge the Trump administration to stick with the Paris Climate Agreement, a new analysis is undercutting one of the climate naysayers primary objections:

China and India are actually years ahead of their climate commitments.

Those, at least, are the findings from Climate Action Tracker which suggest that scaling back of coal consumption in both countries is likely to be enough to 'cancel out' the expected slowing down of progress by the United States under President Trump. India, for example, had pledged to lower the emissions intensity by 33 to 35 percent by 2030 compared to 2005 levels. The new analysis suggests they will leap past that mark to a 42 to 45 percent cut in emissions intensity by 2030.


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 18 2017, @01:07PM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 18 2017, @01:07PM (#511668) Journal

    The US has just 1 ultra efficient coal plant. China has 90.

    While that appears correct, we need to note that the single US plant has received extraordinary opposition [arktimes.com] to that one plant.

    SWEPCO has signed a confidential settlement of lawsuits challenging the construction of the John W. Turk Power Plant in Hempstead County, according to a news release from the power company. The Hempstead County Hunting Club and other plaintiffs have withdrawn their challenges to the plant's air permit and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers permit for the plant. The Sierra Club and the National Audubon Society, along with the local affiliate group Audubon Arkansas, will continue their challenges to the plant's air and Corps permits in the Arkansas Court of Appeals and the U.S. District Court, respectively. SWEPCO hopes to begin operations at the plant next year. The release, including a few details on the settlement, is on the jump.

    It's a sure bet that the Chinese plants haven't seen a bit of this sort of opposition. As another example of Green hypocrisy, the article you linked also advises against the US conducting research into such plants by titling a section:

    The US shouldn’t emulate China’s plan, but it should emulate China’s ambition

    Or we could just ignore a toxic ideology that wants to hamstring progress and build what the US needs? The US still uses coal after all.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:36PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18 2017, @02:36PM (#511692)

    > The US still uses coal after all.

    The US still uses coal but the US does not need coal.
    The only reason we continue to use coal is because of the sunk costs of building the plants.
    NatGas is cheaper, cleaner and more efficient in that it is relatively easy to modulate output to match demand.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 19 2017, @04:32AM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 19 2017, @04:32AM (#512014) Journal
      In other words, when China builds coal burning plants, it's "years early on climate goals". When the US does the same thing, it's "the US doesn't need coal". I think it's reasonable to ask for equal treatment here.
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 19 2017, @04:40AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 19 2017, @04:40AM (#512018) Journal
        For an example of equal treatment, I advocate global trade even though it does have a modest negative effect on low skilled labor in the US - because it creates such a tremendous improvement in the lives of everyone outside of the developed world.
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday May 18 2017, @06:58PM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday May 18 2017, @06:58PM (#511788) Journal

    the local affiliate group Audubon Arkansas, will continue their challenges to the plant's air and Corps permits in the Arkansas Court of Appeals and the U.S. District Court,

    No wonder Runaway did not know about this! The one American plant is in Arkansas! No one ever knows what's going on in Arkansas, especially Arkansawans.