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The Guardian reports that the Svalbard Global Seed Vault, a seed bank near Longyearbyen on the Norwegian island of Spitsbergen, has flooded due to "melting and heavy rain." The seeds remain safe, according to the article.
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If the thunder don't get you, then the lightning will.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:25PM (2 children)
Ain't no such thing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:35PM (1 child)
Seeds should be packed air-tight any way, due to high air humidity in cold environments.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:58PM
You're confused. Only the relative humidity is high in cold, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relative_Humidity.png [wikipedia.org]
I.e. hot air can carry much more moisture.
(Score: 2) by bradley13 on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:41PM (2 children)
A seed bank for all eternity, that can be flooded by a rainstorm. Note - not melt, just rain, which tends to happen in Spring time.
Right near the front: "there’s been water intrusion at the front of the tunnel every single year". So it's not a new problem at all - certainly nothing to do with global warming - it's just crappy engineering and/or construction.
Clickbait for the "end of the world" types.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by kaszz on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:12PM (1 child)
I can almost bet there's at least one engineer related to the project that pointed out this issue and were ignored. Like Challenger.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @07:27PM
I can bet there's one CEO who got a nice bonus who is long gone and ru(i)nning some other project.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:44PM
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=19606&page=1&cid=512590#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:15PM (3 children)
On the high plateau of Antarctica the temperature varies between −26.0 to −63.4 ⁰C it just might be a better place to do this and similar climate can surely be found on the North Pole. And it can be done as a backup. Dig a hole, build a bunker, seal it.
Ice acts as a elastic solid below 30 meters height of ice weight, ie glaciers. So a pressure of less than 272 kN/m² will stay in the elastic region and not let objects plasticly sink straight through. That would allow a build of a 13 meter high tower of solid concrete before it sinks. It would not be a hard stretch to build a bunker cube with 1 meter walls filled with essentially empty space and have it stay in place It could get covered in snow, but that can be handled with a high stairwell inside a wide pipe etc.
For 1000 m² floor space with 3 meter height and a vertical access tunnel of 4x4 meter and 10 meter height would use something like 2600 m³ of concrete. If serious melting is expected ie Arctic goes wet, then shape it like a boat.
(Score: 1) by butthurt on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:19PM
It worked for Gilgamesh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth#Building_and_launching_the_boat [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:29AM (1 child)
The most important thing is to place copies around the world.
You want locations that can support suitable staff. Generally, this means universities.
You should have diversity of government due to war. Don't go 100% NATO, or 100% pacific rim, or 100% OPEC, or 100% in any other alliance. This applies not just to the physical location. It also applies to funding sources and staff citizenship.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @08:44AM
Yeah, there's that.
Another thing is, just as with data backups, you need to verify the viability of what you have.
Standard practice is to replant a portion of the stock every X years and collect the resulting new seeds. [google.com]
If you don't have soil nearby and a reasonable growing season, that makes things more difficult.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 4, Funny) by art guerrilla on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:24PM (1 child)
...sale on sprouts ! ! !
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:46PM
Are you in the process of career change to a guerrilla marketer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:45PM (2 children)
Rite?
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:55PM (1 child)
The Guardian article says that the seeds are kept in packets; I don't know whether those are waterproof. The article says that the flooding was only in an entrance tunnel: the water froze before reaching the area where the seeds are actually stored.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @08:49AM
My vision is of a whole lot of Tupperware.
Even if the place floods, the stuff just floats in air-tight/waterproof bins.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:48PM
Life as we know it is naturally redundant, if you only let it grow, it grows into its own redundancy.