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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the now-they-can-grow! dept.
 
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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:25PM (2 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:25PM (#512738) Homepage Journal

    Ain't no such thing.

    --
    Your private safe room in the back of your mind? Trump pooped in it.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:35PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:35PM (#512741)

      Seeds should be packed air-tight any way, due to high air humidity in cold environments.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:58PM (#513106)

        high air humidity in cold environments

        You're confused. Only the relative humidity is high in cold, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relative_Humidity.png [wikipedia.org]

        I.e. hot air can carry much more moisture.

  • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:41PM (2 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:41PM (#512743) Homepage Journal

    A seed bank for all eternity, that can be flooded by a rainstorm. Note - not melt, just rain, which tends to happen in Spring time.

    Right near the front: "there’s been water intrusion at the front of the tunnel every single year". So it's not a new problem at all - certainly nothing to do with global warming - it's just crappy engineering and/or construction.

    Clickbait for the "end of the world" types.

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    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by kaszz on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:12PM (1 child)

      by kaszz (4211) on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:12PM (#512776) Journal

      I can almost bet there's at least one engineer related to the project that pointed out this issue and were ignored. Like Challenger.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @07:27PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @07:27PM (#513117)

        I can bet there's one CEO who got a nice bonus who is long gone and ru(i)nning some other project.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @09:44PM (#512744)
  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:15PM (3 children)

    by kaszz (4211) on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:15PM (#512753) Journal

    On the high plateau of Antarctica the temperature varies between −26.0 to −63.4 ⁰C it just might be a better place to do this and similar climate can surely be found on the North Pole. And it can be done as a backup. Dig a hole, build a bunker, seal it.

    Ice acts as a elastic solid below 30 meters height of ice weight, ie glaciers. So a pressure of less than 272 kN/m² will stay in the elastic region and not let objects plasticly sink straight through. That would allow a build of a 13 meter high tower of solid concrete before it sinks. It would not be a hard stretch to build a bunker cube with 1 meter walls filled with essentially empty space and have it stay in place It could get covered in snow, but that can be handled with a high stairwell inside a wide pipe etc.

    For 1000 m² floor space with 3 meter height and a vertical access tunnel of 4x4 meter and 10 meter height would use something like 2600 m³ of concrete. If serious melting is expected ie Arctic goes wet, then shape it like a boat.

    • (Score: 1) by butthurt on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:19PM

      by butthurt (6141) on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:19PM (#512780) Journal
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:29AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:29AM (#512911)

      The most important thing is to place copies around the world.

      You want locations that can support suitable staff. Generally, this means universities.

      You should have diversity of government due to war. Don't go 100% NATO, or 100% pacific rim, or 100% OPEC, or 100% in any other alliance. This applies not just to the physical location. It also applies to funding sources and staff citizenship.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by art guerrilla on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:24PM (1 child)

    by art guerrilla (3082) on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:24PM (#512756)

    ...sale on sprouts ! ! !

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:46PM

      by c0lo (156) on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:46PM (#512764) Journal

      Are you in the process of career change to a guerrilla marketer?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:45PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:45PM (#512763)

    Rite?

    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:55PM (1 child)

      by butthurt (6141) on Saturday May 20 2017, @11:55PM (#512793) Journal

      The Guardian article says that the seeds are kept in packets; I don't know whether those are waterproof. The article says that the flooding was only in an entrance tunnel: the water froze before reaching the area where the seeds are actually stored.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @08:49AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21 2017, @08:49AM (#512937)

        My vision is of a whole lot of Tupperware.
        Even if the place floods, the stuff just floats in air-tight/waterproof bins.

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20 2017, @10:48PM (#512766)

    Life as we know it is naturally redundant, if you only let it grow, it grows into its own redundancy.

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