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on Friday February 21 2014, @01:30PM
from the mpaa-and-riaa-can't-touch-this dept.
from the mpaa-and-riaa-can't-touch-this dept.
Fluffeh writes:
"The Digital Citizens Alliance has posted a new report estimating that the 'top warez/pirate sites' generate $227 million dollars in ad revenue each year in which a portion of the cash comes from businesses such as Amazon, McDonalds and Xfinity.
TorrentFreak has an interesting write-up on the report going through the numbers nicely and breaking it down. Based on an estimate of the operating costs, torrent sites are also believed to be the most profitable, with profit margins up to 94.1%. It has to be noted, however, that ad revenue is often the only source of income for torrent sites, where direct download hubs and streaming sites have secondary revenue streams through subscriptions and affiliate deals."
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Hey, wait a minute!! I want a divorce!! ... you're not Clint Eastwood!!
(Score: 5, Informative) by mcgrew on Friday February 21 2014, @04:37PM
Actually, calling file sharing "piracy" comes from pirate radio, and actually is slightly similar, in that you get/give music illegally. "Pirate Radio" came from the fact that most of the pirate stations operated out of internation waters in the ocean.
And "copyright infringers" is a cumbersome label. You have something better?
As to "pejorative", well, many groups have taken pejorative labels and taken them and worn them with pride. I know some gays who are "proud to be queer". Many if not most file shareres wear the label with pride.
I personally don't think electrons should be covered by copyright, which is why my book is free to read, if you want to give me money you have to buy a physical copy. IMO a copyrighted work shold be "affixed to a tangible medium" like a book or a CD; something you can hold in your hand. The MAFIAA shot themselves in the feet, they should have embraced P2P and used it to market silver disks with files easily copied to your computer, with "value added" stuff; for music CDs, say, a concert ticket comes with the CD. For a movie, say, LOTR, some trinket from the Shire or something.
Share my book all you want, I depend on file sharing for sales. Afer all, even if there were no such thing as piracy there's always the public library if you want to read books, listen to music, or watch movies for free. Doctorow covers this well in the intro to one of his books.
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(Score: 1) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday February 21 2014, @07:29PM
If anyone feels like it they could call them "infringers", it's only three letters more than pirates and has the same number of syllables.
Or did I get that wrong? Pi-ra-tes vs. in-frin-gers? :3
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(Score: 1) by lx on Friday February 21 2014, @07:59PM
Why do you pronounce it pee-rat-tees? It's pie-rats. As in rats that eat pie.
(Score: 1) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday February 21 2014, @09:27PM
Yeah I don't pronounce it that way but "pi-rats" (or "pie-rats") looked all wrong.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by mcgrew on Friday February 21 2014, @09:00PM
Ah, but copyright isn't he only thing you can infringe. I'd call the NSA infringers, for instance. Only what they are infringing is our constitutional rights rather than our copyrights.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday February 21 2014, @10:08PM
It would always have/need some context anyway but it's a possible alternative if anybody feels strongly enough about it. After all it's never called piracy in court since piracy is something entirely different.
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(Score: 1) by Reziac on Saturday February 22 2014, @03:49AM
Fancy meeting you here :)
I also write SF, and I have mixed feelings about that "tangible medium" thing. I think if I create something, in any form, I should have the right ask to get paid for it (tho people might not think it worth paying for). After all, I spent my time and effort which oughta be worth at least as much as digging a ditch** (where likewise I am paid for my time and effort). However, if someone 'steals' a digital copy, they have not impoverished me, and aren't my customer anyway. (But maybe they will become customers if I manage to addict 'em...)
** Well, one could hope, but when I worked out a reasonable guesstimate for average hourly compensation based on common pay-per-word rates for fiction, it amounted to all of $2.50/hour or so. You're better off digging ditches.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday February 22 2014, @04:07PM
Well, we probably write for different reasons (I'd like to read some of your stuff, do you have a link?), I don't really care about the money but it would piss me off if someone else were making money on it. If someone posts it on some ad-laden page without my permission I'm suing them. But I write to be read, I just want to entertain folks and maybe make them think. Ever read Asimov's Dreaming Is a Private Thing (full text here) [bestlibrary.net]? I'm Sherman Hillary in that story (which was probably written before I was born).
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(Score: 1) by Reziac on Saturday February 22 2014, @04:24PM
I write character-driven space opera kinda off in the same direction as Bujold (my characters all think I'm a sadist)... more of a serial than a series. Email me (link on my my homepage) and I'll send you a link, it's a passworded archive and is not yet public. Readers either love it or hate it. :) When I decide it public-ready, I'll probably fling the first 'book' to the filesharing winds, and put the rest up for sale on one of the ebook sites, under the theory that if folks like it that well they might spend a few bucks to read more, and if not, I lose nothing.
I tried yours but it's really not my thing... mighta been 30 years ago but I've become more narrow-minded, er, I mean eclectic in my old age. ;) My very fave author is Jack Vance, and the one I reread next-most-often is probably CJ Cherryh.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.