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posted by mrpg on Friday May 26 2017, @06:59AM   Printer-friendly
from the good-luck dept.

Devuan just released their LTS stable Jessie system:

Devuan GNU+Linux is a fork of Debian without systemd. The latest 1.0.0 Jessie release (LTS) marks an important milestone towards the sustainability and the continuation of Devuan as a universal base distribution. Since the Exodus declaration in 2014, infrastructure has been put in place to support Devuan's mission to offer users control over their system. Devuan Jessie provides continuity as a safe upgrade path from Debian 7 (Wheezy) and a flawless switch from Debian 8 (Jessie) that ensures the right to Init Freedom and avoids entanglement.

And if getting it has to be a secret, check out http://devuanzuwu3xoqwp.onion

-- hendrik

[See also the Devuan 1.0.0 stable release (LTS) announcement for more information on how to install/upgrade, the support services that are available (bug tracking/reporting, user forums, etc.) --martyb]


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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Lester on Friday May 26 2017, @03:25PM (3 children)

    by Lester (6231) on Friday May 26 2017, @03:25PM (#515992) Journal

    I'm going to repeat what I posted sometime ago [soylentnews.org]

    For good or bad, systemd is in debian (and linux) to stay. In the middle and long term, software sticking on non-systemd will eventually become unmantained, no matter what Devuan or others do.

    By the way, I don't like systemd.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @03:41PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @03:41PM (#515997)

    There's the question of what userland software would even care about the init system. I guess that would be Windoze/Mac skins for the graphical desktop, which I use on only one of my machines.

    I'm fine with running fvwm on that machine.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 28 2017, @08:40AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 28 2017, @08:40AM (#516682)

      systemd is not an init system. It's so much more and metastasizing at an alarming rate.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Bot on Friday May 26 2017, @07:44PM

    by Bot (3902) on Friday May 26 2017, @07:44PM (#516093) Journal

    You forgot the flip side? the guys behind the adoption of systemd will never release the definitive systemd. It would be pointless to do so. It will always remain in a state of flux, as declared (see Lennart's homepage) and so you will have the wonderful world of windows back, with incompatibilities and forced obsolescence. That will make hardware makers happy and redhat happy. All the other distros will be redhat clones always coming late because they will not have the same level of documentation of RH, and the small software and sysadmins will be always trying to decode whatever the last iteration of systemd came up with.

    TLDR a systemd that works as advertised makes no sense and it will never happen.

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