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Devuan just released their LTS stable Jessie system:
Devuan GNU+Linux is a fork of Debian without systemd. The latest 1.0.0 Jessie release (LTS) marks an important milestone towards the sustainability and the continuation of Devuan as a universal base distribution. Since the Exodus declaration in 2014, infrastructure has been put in place to support Devuan's mission to offer users control over their system. Devuan Jessie provides continuity as a safe upgrade path from Debian 7 (Wheezy) and a flawless switch from Debian 8 (Jessie) that ensures the right to Init Freedom and avoids entanglement.
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-- hendrik
[See also the Devuan 1.0.0 stable release (LTS) announcement for more information on how to install/upgrade, the support services that are available (bug tracking/reporting, user forums, etc.) --martyb]
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @07:21AM
Upstart was a init, yes, systemd is much much more (how about a dns "client" that again and again is found to have flaws fixed in the likes of Bind for a decade already).
And systemd supports sysv rc files, as long as they are simple ones. Try anything complicated and you can be sure it barfs itself.
service files are only "simple" when compared to sysv rc files, but that is because sysv rc files are required to have all the boilerplate internally. BSD init for example put that into a source-able script file instead, massively reducing the size of the individual rc files. Never mind that systemd keeps growing new keywords, and combinations of keywords on near every release to cover "corner cases" that could instead be handled on a case by case basis using scripts. Expect services files to be Turing complete soon.
Except that d-bus was never designed to be system critical, and have massive performance overhead. After all, they did try to push a variant (kdbus) of it into the Linux kernel a year or two back and got rebuffed by Torvalds, even when the likes of GregKH was backing it.
And su having a dbus backend, what the fuck?! If that was the case, why did Poettering call it fundamentally broken and systemd produce their own tool for the same job?!
Put the pipe down and back away, whatever you are smoking is not healthy for you what so ever.