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An Army veteran, a recent college graduate and a student who once won a poetry contest by condemning prejudice stirred up by the Sept. 11 attacks intervened as a man screamed anti-Muslim insults at two women in Portland, Ore., on Friday.
[...] Two of the men — Taliesin Myrddin Namkai Meche, 23, and Rick Best, 53 — died in the attack, which occurred on a commuter train. The third, Micah David-Cole Fletcher, 21, was treated on Saturday for injuries that the police said were serious but not life-threatening.
Jeremy Christian, 35, of North Portland, Ore., was charged with two counts of aggravated murder in the attack and could face additional charges when he is arraigned on Tuesday. Mr. Christian, who the authorities said had a history of making extremist statements on social media, was ranting at, and talking disparagingly about, the two women, one of whom was wearing a hijab.
Source: The New York Times
President Donald Trump has released his first official statement on the attack in Portland, Oregon, more than 48 hours after the two victims died.
"The violent attacks in Portland on Friday are unacceptable," Mr Trump tweeted. "The victims were standing up to hate and intolerance. Our prayers are w/ them."
Source: The Independent
Portland law enforcement leaders were tightlipped Saturday about the investigation into Friday's attacks that killed two men on a light rail train but a federal official did say it was too early to label the incident a hate crime.
[...] Loren Cannon, special agent in charge of the Portland FBI office, [...]
"It's too early to say whether last night's violence was an act of domestic terrorism or a federal hate crime," he said. "However, in the coming days, the FBI, PPB and the prosecutors will work together to share information, leverage resources and make determinations about future criminal charges."
[...] Leaders of the Muslim community said they were thankful for the men who gave their lives to save the girls from harm. They have raised $50,000 toward a goal of $60,000 to help support the victims and their families.
Source: The Oregonian
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:39AM (23 children)
Jill Stein and other leftists directly blame Donald Trump for the attack:
"Another heartbreaking tragedy in Trump's America, as a white nationalist shouting anti-Islam slurs murders 2 on Portland, OR subway."
--Jill Stein
One problem: A search of Jeremy Christian's online accounts show he's a Stein supporter.
If you're reading about this for the first time here, your media source doesn't trust you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:17AM (3 children)
Who cares what Jill Stein thinks?
There was one and only one presidential candidate that said "Islam hates us." [washingtonpost.com] And no matter what other candidates Jeremy Christian flirted with, he was also a trumpaneze.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:03AM (1 child)
Nobody cares what Jill Stain thinks.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @02:52PM
I care what the good doctor thinks! :(
Oh well, I guess this guy decided ALF and ELF weren't his thing so instead he directed his mental illness at some Muslims. (As opposed to causing property damage in a suburb somewhere to show us evil middle class people how evil we are for struggling to get by in a violently impos-- oh fine moving on.)
I'm assuming somebody else Godwinned the thread below (popcorn is almost done popping now) but if not I'll do the honors. We vilify Hitler, but let's be honest. Hitler would have just been some crazy dude on a street corner selling mediocre paintings and post cards if not for the millions of people in very difficult economic circumstances and the zeitgeist at the time. Hitler may have been the head of the beast, but those millions were the body of the beast.
I mean, like Hitler, at least Trump is clearly incompetent. He gives great speeches, the very best speeches, he's very, very good at... did you see the crowd at his last rally? Fantastic!, er, like Hitler did (seriously, watch some of Hitler's speeches--he was a master of rhetoric and absolutely riveting to listen to). If Trump presides over something terrible, he may well end up yet another one of those leaders we vilify in the history books, but it gives me some measure of hope that we'll get through since he's very clearly not going to be implementing some kind of final solution within a master plan within plans within plans. In fact, also like Hitler, I imagine he'll override good advice to the detriment of whatever his goals would be in that hypothetical.
Personally, I tend not to assign too much blame to individuals like Hitler. I mean certainly they're culpable for the things that happened on their watch. However, my point is that millions of people put them there. They don't win an arbitrary lottery and become leaders overnight. There is one class of people I do tend to blame for the root cause of those millions losing their shirts in a bad economy and turning to hate: international bankers.
(I'm sure somebody will take that the wrong way, but let me at least be clear that international bankers are not all followers of Judaism and/or ethnic Jews. It would be wrong to blame an entire ethnicity or religion for the actions of the 0.01% doing the violent imposition. We need to hold all international bankers accountable when the economy goes sour and sets the stage for horrific things to happen; holding an ethnic or religious demographic accountable would be missing the target and doing a grave disservice to the ideal. There's overlap however small there certainly, but we must not let an international banker go without account because he is not a Jew, and we must not hold a Jew to account who is not an international banker. In fact, I imagine at that level that pretty much everybody is an atheist. At least I can imagine no other avenue for the deleterious greed of the international bankers other than cynical nihilism devoid of an ethical framework such as Dawkins proposes.)
In fact, I think the international bankers would like nothing more than to further break the spirit of the people by setting the table for Trump to go down in history as a monster. I sincerely hope he does not take the bait. Whether I like him or not (and speaking as a Clinton voter), we do need some kind of advocate for the people in Washington. Trump is far from perfect, but he's who we have for the moment.
Trump is careless with his words; let's not let him be any more than that. Just let him be some slick real estate guy. No need to enable him to be a monster.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday May 31 2017, @02:05PM
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/noble/sura47.html#3 [thereligionofpeace.com]
3. That is because those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord. Thus does Allah set forth their parables for mankind.
4. So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam (i.e. are saved from the punishment in the Hell-fire) or at least come under your protection], but if it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost,
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 3, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:25AM (4 children)
The moment you used the term "leftist" you lost any credibility you might have had. Nobody credible uses that term.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:43AM
Found the leftist.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:00AM (2 children)
You're such a chump - the whole freaking world uses "left" and "right". Maybe the whole freaking world doesn't mean exactly the same thing when they use the terms, but all of humanity sees "left" and "right". Don't be such a retard.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:34PM (1 child)
The moment you used the term "chump" or "freaking" or "retard", you lost any credibility you might have had. Nobody credible uses that term.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:00PM
The moment you used the term "moment," you lost all... ach! I said it too! It is one of the words the Knights Who Say Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoom-boing-mumble-mumble cannot hear!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:42AM
Fake news is fake.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Whoever on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:59AM
Really?
All the reports that I could find appear to reference Buzzfeed, but, Buzzfeed itself doesn't seem to agree: [buzzfeed.com]
At this point, the Jill Stein "connection" appears to be a right-wing slur, promulgated by news outlets that don't have much regard for the truth.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Whoever on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:15AM (5 children)
Reading that article again, I see that he did post support for Sanders and Stein. Nevertheless, as with many things, the situation is not black and white. Clearly, he expressed white supremacist views, which I doubt that Sanders or Stein would endorse.
A confused individual, full of hate, although there is one thing I can agree with him about: his opposition for circumcision.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:25AM (2 children)
He simultaneously expressed both left [gotnews.com] and right [wweek.com] wing views. Almost as if being a psychotic douchebag is not a partisan position? Presumably this is why more was not made of the womans march with Donna Hylton speaking, a girl setting another girls hair on fire and the male Canadian feminist who punched a woman in the face to protest the patriarchy or some shit?
This must be hate speech - Alt-right confirmed.
See how easy it is to label people? If you want to start acting against "political violence" (aka: terrorism), we should really be starting with Antifa.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @02:34PM (1 child)
> He simultaneously expressed both left [gotnews.com] and right [wweek.com] wing views.
Sometimes people forget that "nazi" was a contraction of the german for national socialist.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:16PM
*takes a deep breath*
OMG socialism! Hitler! Stalin! Mao! Pol Pot! Venezeula!!!eleven!1!
(Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:22AM (1 child)
"the situation is not black and white"
Imagine that. Maybe this scumbag down't have any real politics. Just a lunatic, who hates anyone and everyone who isn't the same brand of crazy that he is.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:42PM
Runaway1956 spotted!
Sometimes the labeling is just, you know, labeling, as in truth in labeling.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:53PM (5 children)
Nice try. When was the last time any leftist assassinated a right-wing nutjob? Now ask yourself about the converse:
Killed:
John Kennedy
Robert Kennedy
MLK
John Lennon
Alan Berg
See a pattern here?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:15PM (4 children)
Oh PLEASE. Even overlooking your distraction of dividing politics into a single-dimension spectrum, we have:
LaVoy Finicum [youtube.com]
Vicki Weaver
Sam Weaver
David Koresh (and the 70+ other victims including children)
Carl Drega
Marvin Heemeyer [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:15PM (3 children)
lolwut?
The FBI and police are now "leftists?"
And Marvin Heemeyer shot himself.
The only person who would think what you wrote is applicable is a right wing nutjob.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:39PM (2 children)
Yes, and Lee Harvey Oswald was a communist while JFK was a neocon.
It seems this whole thread is low quality bait.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @02:19AM (1 child)
Oswald was a terrible marksman. [google.com]
3 shots from him in 5.6 seconds, shooting through foliage, with 2 hitting the mark? Nope.
The shot to the neck came from the Dal-Tex building and the fatal shot was from the Grassy Knoll (a cross-fire done by pros).
The Secret Service spends weeks preparing a city for a presidential visit.
Manhole covers are welded shut.
Windows along a presidential motorcade route are sealed by the Secret Service.
If the presidential limousine can't maintain 44mph, another route is chosen.
The turn from Houston on to Elm required the car to slow to 6mph.
The deviations from routine practices show it wasn't just a lone nut with a surplus WWII bolt-action rifle.
The Warren Commission was a sham.
It concentrated on insignificant things while failing to interview eyewitnesses.
The highest-ranking whistleblower in USA history[1] gave a multi-hour interview in 1989 which was turned into a book.
Having been inside the loop with CIA for over a decade, he points out how it was impossible for the events of November 22, 1963 in Dallas to have occurred without CIA involvement.
Bird Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, USAF Ret. [google.com]
[1] ...if you don't count General Butler. [google.com]
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday May 31 2017, @04:53AM
I knew there was something special with the 88 mph! If the president orders his driver to double the speed they get the time to fix any.. mistake.
:-)
source! [youtube.com] :p