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An Army veteran, a recent college graduate and a student who once won a poetry contest by condemning prejudice stirred up by the Sept. 11 attacks intervened as a man screamed anti-Muslim insults at two women in Portland, Ore., on Friday.
[...] Two of the men — Taliesin Myrddin Namkai Meche, 23, and Rick Best, 53 — died in the attack, which occurred on a commuter train. The third, Micah David-Cole Fletcher, 21, was treated on Saturday for injuries that the police said were serious but not life-threatening.
Jeremy Christian, 35, of North Portland, Ore., was charged with two counts of aggravated murder in the attack and could face additional charges when he is arraigned on Tuesday. Mr. Christian, who the authorities said had a history of making extremist statements on social media, was ranting at, and talking disparagingly about, the two women, one of whom was wearing a hijab.
Source: The New York Times
President Donald Trump has released his first official statement on the attack in Portland, Oregon, more than 48 hours after the two victims died.
"The violent attacks in Portland on Friday are unacceptable," Mr Trump tweeted. "The victims were standing up to hate and intolerance. Our prayers are w/ them."
Source: The Independent
Portland law enforcement leaders were tightlipped Saturday about the investigation into Friday's attacks that killed two men on a light rail train but a federal official did say it was too early to label the incident a hate crime.
[...] Loren Cannon, special agent in charge of the Portland FBI office, [...]
"It's too early to say whether last night's violence was an act of domestic terrorism or a federal hate crime," he said. "However, in the coming days, the FBI, PPB and the prosecutors will work together to share information, leverage resources and make determinations about future criminal charges."
[...] Leaders of the Muslim community said they were thankful for the men who gave their lives to save the girls from harm. They have raised $50,000 toward a goal of $60,000 to help support the victims and their families.
Source: The Oregonian
(Score: 4, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:52AM (11 children)
Even assuming the worst about Islam, it's women who are oppressed by the hijab/burka/etc., so they are the least of whom should be attacked. Why would you attack the oppressed and not the oppressors?
Note that I do not want to get into a debate about whether culturally mandated body coverage is oppressive, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by jelizondo on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:10AM (3 children)
I’m feeling quite cynical right now, so take the comment with a grain of salt linkdude.
Always the oppressed are weak, therefore they make an easier target for everyone.
If a guy looks like he can make you swallow your teeth, you won’t get into trouble with him; if it’s a couple of adolescent girls, hey! they are fair game.
I’m feeling cynical because we should know better than to take on the weak to vent our frustrations or beliefs. On the other hand, I’m sorry that two decent men lost they lives to an imbecile that should had shown the superiority of our civilization and religion by not attacking, literally, children.
He could always get himself to Syria and kill as many ISIL bastards as he could.
We might have a future, but it just doesn’t look quite civilized… Sorry
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:11AM (2 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:34PM (1 child)
Unless its a muslim ocean.
Then the 99.99% who live good decent lives can't dilute the evil of the remaining assholes.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @05:26AM
Because the ocean of Muslims to a large degree is passively or actively complicit to what a numerical small group of violent fanatics do. A poll taken of Muslims living in America found that 51 percent think sharia law should be enacted as law in America. Point is that they are complicit in systematically undermining any government for their own fanatic ends. Too many think violent means to enforce compliance with religious law is justified. And many will not tell authorities if they find out about violent activities among their community. Many do not respect the inhabitants of the country they reside in, so robbery, looting, rape and murder is alright as long as only infidels are at the receiving end.
Then there's the specific strategy to make many babies as possible to outnumber their host countries population. And exploit a democide by numbers using the popular vote as one tool. These offspring is because of too close relationship often plagued with a significant higher degree of genetic problems nor is there a culture to respect education or other people.
Key findings [pewresearch.org]
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:22AM (6 children)
Because, like all the other members of the alt-reich, he doesn't give a damn about anyone else's liberty. Any arguments they make along those lines are just superficial arguments of convenience to rationalize their tribalism.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:40AM (5 children)
Fun fact: the murderer wasn't alt-right, he was a Stein supporter, but don't let facts get in your way of screaming at shadows :)
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:41AM (4 children)
The Daily Mail paints him as a supporter of Mr. Trump:
-- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4551550/Man-accused-Portland-attack-history-racist-rants.html [dailymail.co.uk]
Perhaps he also supported Ms. Stein. Who told you that?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:49AM (3 children)
And he was kicked out for trying to start that nonsense in a Pro-Trump Murika fuckyeah rally.
I guess try again until it is Trump?
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:54AM (2 children)
> And he was kicked out for trying to start that nonsense in a Pro-Trump Murika fuckyeah rally.
I was responding to the poster who stated Mr. Christian "wasn't alt-right" and was a supporter of Ms. Stein. Are you saying that if someone expresses his support for a candidate, and goes to a rally for that candidate, but is shunned by the people at the rally, that shows he isn't a true supporter?
> I guess try again until it is Trump?
Are you saying the Daily Mail is biased against Mr. Trump? That could be. I invited the previous Anonymous Coward poster to tell us from whom he/she learned that Mr. Christian was a supporter of Ms. Stein, but I didn't see an answer. Looking on my own, I see that Fox News is saying that
-- http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/05/29/jill-stein-weighs-portland-stabbing-trumps-america-doesnt-mention-attacker-was-supporter [foxnews.com]
I wasn't aware of that, but I did acknowledge the possibility that he could have favoured both. I found Buzzfeed's story, but the screenshots aren't displaying in my browser:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/portland-suspect [buzzfeed.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:15AM (1 child)
Just thought it was funny to see accusations of tribalism while pointing out how evil the other is.
As far as I can see, the murderer holds views that is everywhere and is unhinged.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:34PM
> Just thought it was funny to see accusations of tribalism while pointing out how evil the other is.
You are the one who made it about stein and trump.
The guy was an avowed white supremacist. He made it about a tribe of loser whites versus everyone else.