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An Army veteran, a recent college graduate and a student who once won a poetry contest by condemning prejudice stirred up by the Sept. 11 attacks intervened as a man screamed anti-Muslim insults at two women in Portland, Ore., on Friday.
[...] Two of the men — Taliesin Myrddin Namkai Meche, 23, and Rick Best, 53 — died in the attack, which occurred on a commuter train. The third, Micah David-Cole Fletcher, 21, was treated on Saturday for injuries that the police said were serious but not life-threatening.
Jeremy Christian, 35, of North Portland, Ore., was charged with two counts of aggravated murder in the attack and could face additional charges when he is arraigned on Tuesday. Mr. Christian, who the authorities said had a history of making extremist statements on social media, was ranting at, and talking disparagingly about, the two women, one of whom was wearing a hijab.
Source: The New York Times
President Donald Trump has released his first official statement on the attack in Portland, Oregon, more than 48 hours after the two victims died.
"The violent attacks in Portland on Friday are unacceptable," Mr Trump tweeted. "The victims were standing up to hate and intolerance. Our prayers are w/ them."
Source: The Independent
Portland law enforcement leaders were tightlipped Saturday about the investigation into Friday's attacks that killed two men on a light rail train but a federal official did say it was too early to label the incident a hate crime.
[...] Loren Cannon, special agent in charge of the Portland FBI office, [...]
"It's too early to say whether last night's violence was an act of domestic terrorism or a federal hate crime," he said. "However, in the coming days, the FBI, PPB and the prosecutors will work together to share information, leverage resources and make determinations about future criminal charges."
[...] Leaders of the Muslim community said they were thankful for the men who gave their lives to save the girls from harm. They have raised $50,000 toward a goal of $60,000 to help support the victims and their families.
Source: The Oregonian
(Score: 1, Troll) by bradley13 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:51AM (2 children)
There are fruitcakes of every stripe. Contrary to the automatic assumptions that everyone is making, this particular fruitcake was a Bernie Boy [thegatewaypundit.com].
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Magic Oddball on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:43AM (1 child)
He was also a registered Libertarian seemingly obsessed with the DEA, War on Drugs, & corrupt cops — suggesting that he voted for Sanders because of his matching stances, and wouldn't have agreed with the rest of his campaign. He also (according to the page you were on) admires Trump.
He was also wildly mentally unstable, based on the tweets on the page you pointed to. In them he:
--stated that he loves trolling anti-fascists ("antifa")
--wishes/threatens death on people who voted for Clinton, Sanders, or Trump (at different times)
--calls Timothy McVeigh a "true patriot" for
--stated he's a Nihilist
--is glad Trump won & not Hilary because "he's the Anti-Christ" and "I['ll] take the fast poison over the slow any day"
--wanted to see the entire government destroyed
Other tweets on the page state that he has a criminal record for robbery, kidnapping, weapons charges, parole violation, contempt of court; he also tends to do anything he can to be the center of attention (even if it's violent), particularly in large crowds. He claimed that a judge had declared him sane, so I'd be very surprised if he's not already formally IDed as having either Conduct Disorder and/or Anti-Social Personality Disorder.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @02:01PM
Timothy Mcveigh was a true American patriot. The fact that the populace can't see that, proves he was generations too late.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Sulla on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:57AM (15 children)
In reading this thread I saw a comment about the women themselves being oppressed by wearing burkhas. To me it seems that what muslim are being required to wear is oppressive. What is the deal with feminists not calling islam out at every turn for their oppression of women, instead seeing the greater oppression as white men keeping all of them down. Seems a society that stones women for being free is a greater threat than a society that catcalls at them.
Really having a hard time understanding this.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:15AM
> Seems a society that stones women for being free is a greater threat than a society that catcalls at them.
Feminist women within the former type of society might be reticent. Taking Saudi Arabia as an example of such a society, there are external critics of the way women are treated there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Saudi_Arabia#Foreign_views [wikipedia.org]
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/07/saudi-arabia-s-feminist-revolution-has-begun.html [thedailybeast.com]
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/03/swedens-feminist-foreign-minister-has-dared-to-tell-the-truth-about-saudi-arabia-what-happens-now-concerns-us-all/ [spectator.co.uk]
At least one Saudi activist was arrested in Saudi Arabia. From a 2014 story:
-- http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-arabias-first-female-lawyer-detained-accused-insulting-islam-219350761 [middleeasteye.net]
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:31AM (1 child)
In my opinion everybody feminists, alt right, democrats, socialists, republicans, libertarians, anarchists, and so on are all seeing the same problem. Society isn't doing so hot right now. We're currently living through what will likely be the first generation to ever end up poorer than their parent's generation. Workers are being treated like cattle more than valued employees, our politicians seem more corrupt and out of touch than ever (for the first time more than 50% of congress are millionaires) and companies are coercively exploiting monopolies while our "representatives" in congress see all this and seemingly could not care less if they tried.
Looking at the source of problems is difficult but blaming groups of people is easy. Feminists blame men, alt right blame jews, democrats blame non-minorities, socialists blame capitalists, republicans blame poor people, libertarians and anarchists blame government, etc. So you end up with strange bedfellows. Islam like you mentioned is about as anti-feminist as possible, yet feminists embrace them since they see them as an ally against the establishment of the patriarchy. The republican party is mostly used as a 'bad copy' to pass legislation and bills which are detrimental to the interests of the poor and middle class, yet they supported primarily by the poor and middle class. The problem is that people don't really let logic get in the way of their biases. It's all just in-group, out-group hive (or mob) mentality.
People are lazy. Looking for actual problems, let alone solutions, is very difficult. Pointing your finger and blaming somebody else is easy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:47AM
Second generation for my family. My grandfather was a dentist, my mother a librarian, I repair laptops.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:30AM (1 child)
>In reading this thread I saw a comment about the women themselves being oppressed by wearing burkhas. To me it seems that what muslim are being required to wear is oppressive.
do you feel western girls are oppressed because they wear skirts? Some women do I am sure (some of the feminist you refer to), but the majority is quite happy to wear them and no, they do not wear it for you to stare at legs or anything, they wear it because they like it and because it makes them fit (beautifully) in their community or society. Society demands a lot of "proper" behavior from us, some of it is silly (I hate ties) but most people feel rather comfortable with it.
One of the most basic principles of a free society is that one should not try to enforce your opinions and moral on other people's behavior. Even when you feel they have been brainwashed to behave like that (we all are, to some extend). There are limits to this of course (your stoning example), but be aware that some feel the death penalty in the US is pretty close to barbarism as well.
(Score: 2) by unauthorized on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:05PM
(snip)
And the cherry on top:
These are extracts [tumblr.com] from the book "Confessions of an ExMuslim" by Canadian-born ex-Muslim Yasmine Mohammed [confessionsofanexmuslim.com]. Emphasis mine.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Magic Oddball on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:50AM (1 child)
The girls in this case weren't wearing burkhas, which cover the entire body. They were wearing hijabs (headscarves), most likely (based on pics I've seen of Muslim teen fashion in the US & UK) similar to the ones that were popular with American women in the 1960s.
Most young Muslim women in the West who are wearing headscarves, burkinis, etc. do so from the exact same sense of religious modesty & local fashion that drives a lot of young conservative Christian/Catholic women to avoid wearing clothes that reveal more than they were taught is acceptable.
As for feminists... You're just hearing the same highly vocal minority that dominate any controversial issue: people who are still in the young-adult stage where people tend to focus on a few issues, become very easily outraged/critical over them, feel their protests are illogically important, and are blind (or lack the experience) to see contradictions in their own lives. Most of the ones you're noticing aren't even primarily feminists — as you pointed out, they're more focused on race relations, with women from a particular group sometimes just serving as a handy example when useful. *shrug*
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @06:05AM
The problem is that law makers, media and HR departments all listen and act on these extremists.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:43AM (1 child)
Obviously this wave of feminism has other agendas than the declared ones. Cultural marxism is likely, but itself probably only another layer for other agendas again.
It is like "let's people have Islam related problems getting bigger until we can enforce a ban on all religion and a dictatorship" or something. Weimar republic 2.0.
If you want a more natural perspective: "To delude oneself into thinking that an Good Islam and a Bad Islam exist, that is, not understanding that one Islam exists... is against Reason" (Oriana Fallaci).
Natural does not mean 100% accurate, of course.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:43PM
> "To delude oneself into thinking that an Good Islam and a Bad Islam exist, that is, not understanding that one Islam exists... is against Reason"
What a meaningless thing to say.
Its the view of an outsider who is so ignorant of what they are observing they can't distinguish any details.
Its the cultural version of "they all the look the same to me."
"To delude oneself into thinking that an Good America and a Bad America exist, that is, not understanding that one America exists... is against Reason"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:58PM (5 children)
> What is the deal with feminists not calling islam out at every turn for their oppression of women,
In a free country, people are free to wear whatever they want. It would be hypocritical for people who support women's rights to tell women that they don't have the right to choose their own clothing.
Modern feminists regularly call out countries that do force a dress code on women.
And since you care so much about oppressed muslim women, surely that means you are in favor of allowing female refugees from countries where strict islamic laws force women to wear burkas and worse. Right?
You wouldn't just be using them as a cudgel to beat on muslims. Right? That would be totally hypocritcal, wouldn't it? And you aren't a hypocrite at all, right?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:32PM (4 children)
The photos of refugees from Muslim-centric countries I've seen show overwhelming numbers of young males. Where are the places allowing in female victims and keeping out military-age males?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:35PM (3 children)
About three-quarters of (Syrian refugees) are women and children. A full third of them are kids under 12 years old. [politifact.com]
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Wednesday May 31 2017, @01:31AM (1 child)
Thats about as bad as using Brietbart or The Blaze when trying to prove a point.
I suspect that the boats entering into "european" waters are probably racist/sexist because the majority of the people you see on them are men. Maybe its just my eyes that are racist/sexist for not showing me the reality as I am supposed to see it.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:23AM
How fucked in the head do you have to be think politifact is the equivalent of breitbart?
Seriously, what alt-reality do you exist in where that is even remotely true?
Meanwhile your only counter evidence is what you "suspect."
Figures, doesn't it? UNHCR numbers on one hand, your bigotted suspicions on the other hand. Who can say which is more accurate?
JFC you are such a sad fucking sack.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @06:07AM
And almost nine out of ten migrants arriving in western countries are young males. Almost like an army..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:51AM (1 child)
Fix teh boog please
(Score: 1) by charon on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:19PM
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:02AM (14 children)
Here [youtube.com] is a video of the attacker on a different day than the attack. He was deranged and talking to himself while bashing Christians, Muslims, Jews, taxpayers, and just about everything. He also seemed aggrieved that some group managed to get his wife's metal concert cancelled - all while threatening to stab everybody and simultaneously nobody since he was basically talking to the clouds. According to the person [wweek.com] who filmed the video, this was just the tail end of a ~15 minute rant of him talking to himself. The reporting of the stabbing in question has him going on another rant before everybody moved away from him except for a handful of individuals who decided to approach him. Don't escalate situations against insane individuals.
Our media is spinning this as an anti-Muslim attack and trying to frame it as terrorism on top of that, to finally fit their narrative. But their 'home grown white terrorist' is a guy going on regular lengthy rants to himself on the city bus and making threats like stabbing the bus driver because he must not be "moving forward" (I guess not driving quickly enough?) because he's a Christian or a Muslim. That said it does make one wonder what to do in a situation like this. Anybody who's relied on a mainline city bus for any period of time will have run into these sort of guys plenty. The threats could potentially be a felony, but the law requires they be real. If the situation with this individual had not been escalated, there likely would never have been a stabbing. And in any case this guy belongs in a mental institution, not a prison. Put him in prison and he'll just go further off the deep end as he organizes and further radicalizes with other similarly deranged individuals.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:11AM
Yeah! Fuck the Abrahamic religions! Tax is theft, Caesar! Fucking Roman punk-ass bitches.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:43AM (5 children)
And, what about the following (found on random site [govtslaves.com]), is the fact true? The anti muslim march was surely planned before the attack, you don't organize those things in a mere week.
"Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler has urged the federal government to revoke a permit for a “free speech” rally and to refuse a permit for an anti-Muslim march planned for Portland next week."
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:36AM (3 children)
(Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:09AM (2 children)
I believe he's trying to refute the claim that openly anti-Muslim sentiment is just something being made up by the mass media.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:55AM
No, sorry, I was saying that marches against Islam* were already planned, but media failed to take into account the combination of this climate and a clearly deranged individual in their analysis. Media is, again, mere propaganda.
*) which are perfectly justified, because Islam is not constitutional whenever it gets outside the personal belief sphere, in the social sphere, and this is happening and media play dumb, and left plays dumb, and you should be concerned about that.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:47PM
unlikely since he's anti-muslim himself and considers it "natural."
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:53AM
Can't have freedom of speech (or in this specific case, freedom of assembly) if you suppress people even if you think they're batshit insane.
The ACLU went to bat for the American Nazi Party [wikipedia.org] over this very issue, and won the case because it didn't meet then standard of "clear and present danger", or the current standard of "imminent lawless action" required for prior restraint of the government.
Still always moving
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:24AM (6 children)
The thing you don't get is that the situation had already been massively escalated by said crazy person. It is foolish to ignore the person with the greatest control over the situation, Mr. Christian himself. And if those bystanders hadn't "escalated" the conflict, perhaps it would have been a couple of teenage girls who would have died instead.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:44AM
An outcome they sure would have preferred, if they had the capability of hindsight, I am sure.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:20AM (4 children)
The girls, along with everybody on the bus, had already removed themselves from the situation. Any risk, which may not have even existed, had already passed. Escalating the situation against a deranged individual is idiotic. What exactly did they think would happen? For him to decide, "Oh gosh you're right. I guess I shouldn't be a deranged menace on the bus. Please give everybody my kindest apologies. Thanks, gents."? Approaching him was begging for a physical altercation against a potentially psychotic individual who is repeatedly stating he wants to stab people. Another very reasonable possibility is him having been under the influence of drugs such as PCP whose side effects include 0 sensitivity to pain, impaired decision making, and effectively superhuman strength. These sort of individuals can take a half dozen trained law enforcement officers to control.
If people feel the person might be a genuine future threat then the right thing to do would be to call the authorities. Presumably the bus would have a camera which the police could use to make an informed decision (though again I think it's a shame we're sending these people to prison instead of mental institutions). But in 99% of circumstances the solution is to treat them like animals - avoid eye contact and leave them alone, and they leave everybody else alone even if they might rant at them. Had the individual in question decided to begin approaching the girls or otherwise become physically aggressive then that's another situation altogether and I would support intervention simply because there is no other reasonable alternative. As is, these deaths were completely unnecessary and it's a complete shame.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:56PM (3 children)
The girls were able to remove themselves with the intervention of the three guys who were attacked. They might not have been able to otherwise.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @04:12AM (2 children)
That has not been reported or even alluded to. Not a single news article has alluded to the crazy in any way whatsoever physically interacting with the girls - and our news media is already absurdly sensationalistic. The media would be jumping all over it if it happened or could even be somehow possibly spun to have happened. Even the one girl who has spoken on video (and whom, by the way, is not a Muslim - yay media) simply said [bbc.com] they were going to go get off the bus. The bus line does [trimet.org] has cameras on every bus and so there is objective evidence that will likely be revealed or leaked at some point.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 31 2017, @06:58AM (1 child)
Instead Christian physically interacted with three people who had intervened to prevent him from physically interacting with the girls. And I see one of the girls has said [bbc.com] "Without them we would be dead" and that Christian had started attacking before the two girls could flee the area. So this eyewitness account contracts the earlier assertion that the girls along with everyone else "had already removed themselves from the situation" was wrong. A couple of quotes from this previous post which also appears to be by you:
When seconds count, the authorities are only a few minutes away. I bet we'll find that there were multiple 911 calls prior to the attack. But law enforcement doesn't magically arrive exactly when they are called.
This wasn't 99% of circumstances. Perhaps you too should listen to your own advice and wait for evidence before making broad, unfounded assertions about the incident. We already have an eyewitness account that contradicts some of your assertions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @07:20PM
And more detailed accounts are coming out [koin.com]. Another one [oregonlive.com]. The reporter in that one took some liberties with facts by, for instance, describing the initial shove against Christian as an attempt to move him away from the girl. Problem being the person being interviewed already said she couldn't even see where the girls were and so obviously did not say this - it was also the reporter interjecting that. It was not quoted or even paraphrased like the vast majority of the article. In any case, both start to show you a clear picture. And sadly it is exactly as I told you it would be.
The crazy was being crazy. A smart veteran started trying to trying to calm him down by talking to him like an actual person. Our poet then "briskly walked" to the crazy and "loudly implored him" (using our 'creative' reporters phrasing) to get off the train. He then apparently got into the crazy's personal space and placed his camera over his head. To give some context to the distance - the personal account said she was unsure if he was recording it or trying to show the crazy a video! At that point another previously uninvolved individual decides to go shove the crazy. The crazy at this point drew his knew, dared him to shove him again, but then immediately cut him without warning. He then got on the other individual that had been "loudly imploring" him to leave and hovering his phone over him. At this point the veteran intervened to tried to save the kid and was targeted as well.
Really this is all just incredibly sad. I could easily see myself being the vet there. But the other point is that this all could also have been likely avoided if people didn't turn a vocal altercation violent. The vet had the right of it. Treat the guy with respect and dignity, even if he doesn't deserve it, and try to calm him down. Getting in his face? Shoving him? What exactly did they hope to accomplish?
(Score: 1) by garrulus on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:25AM (13 children)
Who got physical first
(Score: -1, Troll) by garrulus on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:30AM (12 children)
When white girls were actually raped and murdered by negroes and muslims?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:51AM (11 children)
Citations?
I'm not saying it didn't happen, but the least you could do is to point to one or more incidents.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:01AM (2 children)
to feed the troll, google 631 raped muslim gang.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:27PM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/05/muhammad_raped_while_bobby_stayed_mum.html [americanthinker.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:10PM
http://pamelageller.com/2015/06/uk-city-that-covered-up-muslim-rape-gangs-wants-to-ban-anti-child-rape-protests.html/ [pamelageller.com]
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/this-is-islam-once-ten-of-us-rape-you-you-become-muslim/ [nowtheendbegins.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:31PM (3 children)
May 24, 2012
Muhammad Raped while Bobby Stayed Mum
By Ryan James Girdusky
The cult of diversity has claimed four dozen more victims. On May 8, 2012, nine men were convicted of rape, conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with minors, trafficking for sexual exploitation, conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children, sexual assault, and aiding and abetting a rape. All nine of the men are Muslim, eight are British Pakistani, and one is Afghani. The gruesome details of the crime are in themselves barbaric, but the responses from British police are languid and discomfiting.
The national scandal began in 2005 as the nine men in the Manchester area, some of them taxi drivers, would lure many young teenage girls, often 13 to 15 years old, with free food, drugs, and alcohol. The girls came from shoddy backgrounds; many were teenage runaways and living on social services. Once they were high or drunk, they were beaten and raped. They were passed around to other men, mostly of Pakistani descent, where they would be gang-raped by three to five men a night. One case involved a 13-year-old who became pregnant after she was gang-raped by three men. And yet another disgusting incident involved a 15-year-old who was so drunk that she threw up off the side of the bed while two Pakistani men raped her. Another involved a 15-year-old who was gang-raped by 20 men in one night.
The Telegraph stated, "There were 631 documented cases of abuse over a five-year period, and many will have been too afraid to tell their story."
The nine men were between the ages of 22 and 59. One of the men, Abdul Rauf, a married father of five, also happens to be a religious studies teacher at a local mosque. The men received a total prison sentence of 77 years.
The rapes are a tragedy -- it is a tragedy that vulnerable girls can be so easily abducted, raped, and abused. However, it is the delayed response by police and civil service in the area that is the national scandal. In August of 2008, one of the victims, then 15 years old, went to police and social workers; she provided the police with DNA evidence to back up her story of being gang-raped. Twice the police refused to prosecute. She continued to be raped by up to five men a night, four or five nights a week. Former Labour MP Ann Cryer said the silence of the Manchester Bobbies is due to the fact that they were "petrified of being called racists." The Manchester police and Rochdale social services publicly apologized, but their fears of being given the scarlet "R" were not in vain.
The accusation of racism can end public servants' careers, so oftentimes they must revert to political correctness.
Political correctness was also the fallback for most of the politicians in the House of Commons. Leading MP Keith Vaz stated that the gang-rapes were "appalling" but that it was important not to "stigmatize an entire community." He later stated, "I don't think this has anything to do with race."
However, Equalities and Human Rights Commission chief Trevor Phillips said, "I think anybody who says that the fact that most of the men are Asian and most of the children are white is not relevant, I mean that's just fatuous." Nazir Afzal, the chief crown prosecutor, who himself is a Muslim, stated that some immigrants bring "cultural baggage" with them from misogynistic societies.
The link between the crime and the girls' race is undeniable according to top officials in the Human Rights Commission, and yet most media outlets outside the U.K. still ignore the case. Had roles been reversed and it were twenty white men gang-raping a Muslim woman, the international media would not rest until there was blood in the streets. The hype of the Trayvon Martin murder is simply ignored when the victims cannot produce the narrative most multiculturalists in the mainstream media wish to project.
It is a sad day for Great Britain on the whole, not just for her victimized daughters -- for the nation which at one point had an empire so large that the sun never set on it has now been reduced to a nation of cowards. If a nation cannot perform its most basic obligation to protect its citizenry because its leaders prioritize protecting their multicultural ideology, that nation and its culture are dead. In the West, theological faith has given way to political religion -- a religion predicated upon self-deception and self-destruction, a religion, which may yet be proven to be as fatal for the West as it has so callously negligent toward these young girls. If Western civilization and all the fruit it has borne are to survive this seeming twilight, then both the ideology of multiculturalism and the cult of diversity must be defeated.
Ryan James Girdusky writes from New York City. He is a contributor to Townhall.com and has been published in many outlets including Breitbart.com, the American Spectator, and the Christian Science Monitor
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @02:12PM (1 child)
you're being intolerant to these dirty muslims! it's a hate crime to even acknowledge that they are raping girls!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @02:47PM
and this was exactly why these muslims were not arrested, charged, convicted, and jailed with the label of sex offender
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @02:55PM
RYAN GIRDUSKY
Political Consultant
8:58 AM 02/13/2015
The story of the thousands of young, mostly white girls who were raped by British-born Pakistani Muslims has just become more grotesque. A government report issued last week by British social welfare official Louise Casey into the rapes found that the Rotherham council attempted to cover up evidence and represented an overall failure of leadership. Just days after that damming report, Rotherham’s Labour MP, Sarah Champion, said “I’m getting new victims coming to me on a weekly basis.” She went on to say Muslim gangs may have assaulted as many as a million girls in the UK.
Sky News spoke to a Rotherham victim who said she sees her abusers “driving young girls in their cars, “untouchable,” and that the abuse is “still going on if not worse, because now they’re having to hide it more.” Sky News also said the authorities had known about hundreds more cases of sexual abuse last August, when Professor Alexis Jay issued her report about the rapes, and that hundreds more are still being reported.
Despite the outcry in the British media at the time of the Jay Report, the rapes continue. The UK’s political correctness has prevented it from tackling the issue properly.
According to the Casey Report, the council did not act on the claims of sexual molestation, child abuse, and rape “for fear of appearing racist.” The report also detailed how quite a few victims believed the police did not act on their claims for fear of being accused of being racist.
Jay’s report had found that more than 1,400 girls, some as young as eleven, had been sexually exploited by Muslim gangs. It said they “were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten, and intimidated.
“There were examples of children who been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone.”
A similar story unfolded in nearby Rochdale, where police arrested nine Muslim men for sexually abusing dozens of young girls in 2012. The rapes were brutal; one teen recounted at a trial being raped by two men while she was “so drunk she was vomiting over the side of the bed.” Overall there were 631 documented cases over a five-year period.
These cases of pedophilia, rape, and sexual abuse were well known to police and social services long before the reports and the arrests. In 2008, one of the Rochdale victims, then 15, went to the police and social workers providing DNA evidence to back up her story of being gang-raped. Twice the police refused to prosecute. She continued to be raped by up to five men a night, four or five nights a week. Rotherham police received 157 reports in 2013 concerning sexual exploitation though the police were receiving evidence dating back to 2002, all of which was ignored or suppressed.
The government has failed these girls because it’s racially and culturally inconvenient to help them. The rapists are Muslim, and the majority of the victims are white. In the UK, racial sensitivity is so high that the mere accusation of racism could end a public servant’s career. And the political class promotes political correctness and multiculturalism at any cost.
Immediately after the Rochdale case came to light, politicians appeared to care more about protecting political correctness more than their citizens. MP Keith Vaz denounced the rapes as “appalling” but followed by saying it was important not to “stigmatize an entire community” and believed the girls were not the target of abuse because they were white: “I don’t think this has anything to do with race.”
The MP’s statements were the total opposite of those by Equalities and Human Rights Commission chief Trevor Phillips, who said anyone “who says that the fact that most of the men are Asian and most of the children are white is not relevant” is being fatuous. Yet Nazir Afzal, the chief crown prosecutor, who is Muslim himself, defended some of the immigrants, saying they bring “cultural baggage” with them from misogynistic societies.
After two investigations and the comments by Phillips and Afzal, it could not be clearer that political correctness is putting every girl in the UK at risk. Moreover, political correctness has become a tool for predators to use against the most vulnerable citizens. Cloaked behind ideas of tolerance and multicultural unity, political correctness is failing the girls of the United Kingdom like it failed the Jews in France.
Even today, more girls are being victimized, yet their abusers are still walking free as the politically correct fear of discussing racism as a two-way street keeps politicians and institutions from doing anything about it.
Tags: Multiculturalism, Rape, Rotherham, Ryan GirduskyThe UK’s Political Establishment Is Still Failing Rape Victims
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:38PM
In Stockholm, Sweden, as many as 20 Muslim men gang-raped an 11-year-old girl. A mother was hosting a birthday party at a public bath/swim center for a group of 11 and 12 year old children. Up to 20 Muslim men who lived at a nearby refugee center arrived at the public bath. They immediately began to assault the children, ripping their swimsuits off and beating the boys when they tried to stop the assault. Eventually, the men cornered one of the little girls in a grotto in the bathhouse and gang raped her. The police refused to make any arrests.
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England has probably the most massive Muslim rape and prostitution problem in Europe, in large part because the British government refuses to acknowledge it. Two years ago, the British online paper, The Daily Mail reported that hundreds of white British girls were used as prostitutes, rape victims, and sex slaves by Muslim men (whom the British refer to a “Asians”):
Police and social services have been accused of fuelling a culture of silence which has allowed hundreds of young white girls to be exploited by Asian men for sex.
Agencies have identified a long-term pattern of offending by gangs of men, predominantly from the British Pakistani community, who have befriended and abused hundreds of vulnerable girls aged 11 to 16.
Experts claim the statistics represent a mere fraction of a ‘tidal wave’ of offending in counties across the Midlands and the north of England which has been going on for more than a decade.
The details of what happened – the methodical way the men go about grooming the girls and the way the girls are subsequently used by men across England – make for horrifying reading. Not all of the men convicted have been Muslim, but the majority have been:
The grooming usually begins with older groups of men befriending girls aged from 11 to 16 they meet on the street.
In a typical scenario, the victim is initially treated as a girlfriend and showered with presents and attention.
But the relationship quickly becomes more sinister as the abuser plies the child with drink and drugs before effectively pimping her out to friends and associates.
The worst cases involve young girls being moved around the country to be repeatedly abused.
Charities and agencies working in conjunction with the police to help victims of sexual abuse in such cases have publicly denied there is a link between ethnicity and the on-street grooming of young girls by gangs and pimps.
But researchers identified 17 court prosecutions since 1997, 14 of them in the past three years, involving the on-street grooming of girls aged 11 to 16 by groups of men.
The victims came from 13 towns and cities and in each case two or more men were convicted of offences.
In total, 56 people, with an average age of 28, were found guilty of crimes including rape, child abduction, indecent assault and sex with a child.
Three of the 56 were white, 53 were Asian. Of those, 50 were Muslim and a majority were members of the British Pakistani community.
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In Australia in 2000, gang rapes of non-Muslim women by Muslim men became so overwhelming that they were eventually lumped together under the heading of “Sydney gang rapes.” The perpetrators were a group of Lebanese Australian Muslims that specifically targeted non-Muslim women and teenage girls, some as young as 14.
The six rapes occurred over a one month period. The details of these attacks make for stomach-churning reading. One woman was taken to 3 separate locations, and was eventually raped 25 times by 14 men over a period of 6 hours. A 16-year-old girl was raped by 2 men, before an audience of 12 men. They ended the attack against her by holding a gun to her head and kicking her in the stomach.
Comments that the men made during the rapes made it clear that these were intended as racial terrorism attacks. Victims heard such things as “You deserve it because you’re an Australian,” and “I’m going to fuck you Leb style.”
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @01:42PM
A 15 year old girl in Malaysia was gang raped by 38 Muslim men, with each man taking turns for several hours. Police have arrested 15 men and are looking for the remaining ones as the investigation is going under way.
According to several media outlets, police chief Azham Otham said 38 men were involved. The same chief said:
"It is very disturbing to me that no one in the village was even suspicious when the closest neighbour was a mere 20 metres away"
Another activist said:
"We are seeing a prevalence in rape cases because boys are raised in an environment where they think it is okay to use violence"
One report said:
The men took turns to rape her for hours. Police were also investigating whether her 17-year-old friend was also raped. … Almost 3,000 rapes were reported to the police in 2012, of which 52 percent involved girls aged 16 and below, according to police statistics.
I could never imagine that someone could be raped by 38 men, but once you realize that we are dealing with a spiritual darkness, then the truth remains: there is no limit to evil. Satan has no limits, and the mind, under his control, plunges itself ceaselessly through the never ending ocean of sinister depravity.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @02:45PM
Muslim Male "Refugees" Are Gang Raping Women in Europe
Katie Pavlich | January 07, 2016
Two weeks ago the New York Times ran a story about the need to host classes in Norway and Denmark for Muslim men new to the country. The topic? Rape is wrong and unacceptable.
A course manual sets out a simple rule that all asylum seekers need to learn and follow: “To force someone into sex is not permitted in Norway, even when you are married to that person.”
In Denmark, lawmakers are pushing to have such sex education included in mandatory language classes for refugees. The German region of Bavaria, the main entry point to Germany for asylum seekers, is already experimenting with such classes at a shelter for teenage migrants in the town of Passau.
Many refugees “come from cultures that are not gender equal and where women are the property of men,”
Mr. Isdal said. “We have to help them adapt to their new culture.”
Henry Ove Berg, who was Stavanger’s police chief during the spike in rape cases, said he supported providing migrants sex education because “people from some parts of the world have never seen a girl in a miniskirt, only in a burqa.” When they get to Norway, he added, “something happens in their heads.”
Now, Germany is facing the same type of rape epidemic as progressive politicians continue to allow thousands of refugees, many of whom are military aged males, into the country.
During New Years Eve celebrations in the western city of Cologne, dozens of Muslim men allegedly participated in rape mobs. They surrounded young women, touched them, raped them and stole their wallets and cell phones. Tensions surrounding how the situation is being handled are rising by the day. From ABC News:
A string of sex assaults and robberies during New Year's celebrations in Germany has fuelled debate about the country's ability to integrate large numbers of migrants, after police said that men who targeted dozens of women in the western city of Cologne appeared to be of "Arab or North African origin."
Political leaders including Chancellor Angela Merkel condemned the attacks, though many also warned against hasty conclusions about the perpetrators. But to some Germans already uneasy about the one million asylum-seekers their country took in last year the incident seemed to confirm simmering fears.
"It's unacceptable that women are sexually molested and robbed by young migrants on the streets and public squares of German cities at night," said Andreas Scheuer, general secretary of the Christian Social Union, the Bavarian wing of Merkel's party.
"Whoever won't accept our rules for living together, including respect for women, can have no place in our society here in Germany," said Scheuer.
If you have to educate an entire influx of Muslim men about how rape is wrong, you probably shouldn't be letting them into your country.
And again, lets not forget the massive cover up of the rapes of thousands of children, boys and girls, in Britain for the sake of not being called Islamophobic.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:04PM
Muslim gang-rapes across Europe under-reported in press
High profile-gang rapes in India have been in the headlines since December. The phenomenon is growing across Europe too, but tends to be under reported due to the high incidence of Muslim perpetrators which makes it politically incorrect to mention.
In December 2011 a Swedish mother-of-two was subjected to a brutal gang-rape by 12 Afghan immigrants in a refugee camp in Mariannelund. Reports stated "The rape was oral, anal and vaginal sometimes with three rapists inside her at the same time while everybody was cheering and clapping. The gruesome rape marathon lasted for 7 hours. 11 suspect may have been involved taking turns while drinking and getting high on drugs. The asylum seekers were cheering and clapping their hands during the rape marathon while calling the victim "whore" and "slut"."
According to Vimmerby Tidning "The woman went into shock while the rapes were still underway, and has since been in a heavily traumatised state. She is now subject to nightmares and panic attacks, and lives in a psychiatric clinic. She is bound to a wheelchair due to damages to her abdomen, and suffers from faecal incontinence."
The main perpetrator Rafi Bahaduri, 25, had already committed four other rapes in Sweden. The case is not unique. There is a growing trend of gang-rapes perpetrated against white women by Muslim rapists.
In the U.K. there has been a steady stream of cases where primarily under- privileged young English girls have been targeted, groomed and raped by gangs of what the British press euphemistically refers to as Asian men. However, the published names of the perpetrators are primarily of Pakistan and Afghanistan origin when the gang rapists appear in court. The Asian gangs do not contain rapists from China, Japan, and the Philippines.
Cases have been reported in Rochdale, Rotherham, Derby, Bradford, Blackpool - the list goes on. An article regarding the phenomenon in Standpoint notes: "According to some of the mothers, a fear of being branded racist makes many of the police and social services reluctant to investigate the crimes as organised and connected. One mother from Rotherham, whose 14-year-old daughter was groomed into prostitution and multiply raped during a 12-month period, told me that almost every man convicted of these crimes in the north of England is from Pakistan but that the authorities insist that it is not relevant."
More and more cases are reported across Europe. The following is just a very small sample (some figures indicate 5,000 gang-rapes occur in France alone each year.)
In October 2011 a British woman was brutally gang-raped by five Afghan refugees in Banja Koviljaca, Serbia. According to the Austrian Times the men were living in a local refugee centre housing 2,500 illegal immigrants.
In June 2011 a 14-year-old Norwegan girl, Eva Helgetun, committed suicide after being gang-raped by three teenage migrants.
In January 2013 the Local reported a 22-year-old woman was gang-raped by five men in Stockholm, the first of three reported gang-rapes in the city this year. Eight Muslim male teenagers have been arrested on suspicion of aggravated rape in connection with the three incidents.
In March 2013 a British tourist was gang-raped by three Arab men in a Spanish resort.
The Archbishop of Cranmer's blog spot details a high-profile disturbing case in France where two teengage girls were the prolonged victims of constant gang-rapes by dozens of Muslim teenagers.
Cranmer states that all the men involved that were eventually convicted were Muslims which leads him to question: "Why is the issue of gang-rape committed by young men identified as belonging to a particular minority background consistently suppressed? Are there reporting restrictions? Infringement of their human rights? A conspiracy of silence?"
The silence across MSM in Europe regarding the growing number of gang-rapes against white women by Muslim men and grooming gangs is indeed deafening.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:20AM (1 child)
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by curunir_wolf on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:18PM
I don't think they allow firearms in Portland. But you can carry a bow and arrows if you can prove a significant Native American Heritage. Same think in Massachusetts which is why Warren sports a quiver.
I am a crackpot
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @12:28PM (7 children)
If there's a bright spot in this terrible story it's that despite everything, basic human decency is still alive in America. Standing up to intervene for people who have been relentlessly demonized in the press for 20 years (or longer) shows courage.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @03:43PM (6 children)
Shut up you hypocrite.
You voted for the candidate who said "Islam hates us" [washingtonpost.com] and campaigned on banning the girls in this story.
You don't get to act like you are a decent person when it comes to anti-muslim bigotry. You are part of the problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:47PM (4 children)
Out of curiosity. Imagine you were able to poll every single Muslim worldwide and asked them to respond to the following question: "On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is hate and 10 is love, how would you rate your feelings towards the United States?" How do you think they would respond? I think all religions are pretty scummy, but Islam takes the cake there since the religion is still in its more fundamentalist phase that most other religions have already gone through. Also, Trump did not campaign on deporting Muslims - he campaigned on tightening immigration requirements so that the people that would answer closer to 1 for the above survey would be less able to get into the United States.
If an otherwise secular individual had the beliefs of a Muslim, they'd be considered a racist, sexist, homophobic, bigot. It's interesting that because you say you have those beliefs because of a god, that suddenly we're supposed to accept that. To me that's silly. I don't condone racist rednecks because it's their culture, and I don't condone Islamic stupidity because it's their culture either.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:07PM (3 children)
> How do you think they would respond?
Not much different from any other group.
> If an otherwise secular individual had the beliefs of a Muslim, they'd be considered a racist, sexist, homophobic, bigot.
In the US muslims are 50% more likely to support gay marriage than evangelicals. [pewforum.org]
They also have the highest levels of income and education gender equality [gallup.com] after jews.
The version of islam that you know is not the version of islam that actual muslims live. Delete the jihadwatch bookmarks and start paying attention to facts, not sophistry from haters.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:41PM (1 child)
"not sophistry from haters."
Meaning, we can stop listening to you, and all the progressives. You hate America, and your sophistry only tries to disguise that fact.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:26AM
Ah, just like so many of your fellow assholes. Faced with demonstrable facts, all you've got is "you hate america."
No, I hate the bullshit you spout and I hate your faux patriotism. You are no american, you are lying, countryless scum.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @04:42AM
Do you even grasp your own cognitive dissonance?
You're trying to spin 42% of a group supporting gays having the same legal rights under law as straights as a good thing. Similarly that "income and education equality" equality is absurd. The education aspect isn't even quantified, and the "economic equality" is praising the fact that Muslims are very poor. Muslim men live in the poorest households in the US, which puts them on par with Muslim women. What amazing progress. That figure is even more sad given they're looking at household income (as opposed to personal income) and the average Muslim household size in the US is substantially larger than average meaning more potential bread winners.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:56AM
Simplistic reductionism such as you are practicing helps no one, least of all yourself. It glosses everything into a blur of binary oppositions that will lead to you misread the world time and again, and take the wrong actions and form incorrect assumptions based on that misreading. Maybe you are young and don't know yet that the world, and certainly not human beings, does not confine itself to your petulant need for clear categories. Or, maybe you are an adult and don't know that because your emotional intelligence is insufficient or your social development was fatally stunted at some stage.
No candidate does, however, conform 100% to any voter's set of cherished beliefs. No candidate will ever do so. Unless you're a churl you will concede that much. Further, unless you're a churl, you will concede that voting for a candidate does not an endorsement of everyone of the candidate's beliefs make. Further, I think we can all agree, or at the very least take as so for the sake of argument, that the two nominees in this last race were particularly awful. So the previous two statements were even more true than usual.
Since you seem to recall I voted for Trump, then you would also recall that I was very forthright about why (and, spoiler here, it was not because he hated Muslims or was going to build a stupid wall). I voted the way I did because I knew a great deal about the Clintons and would have been sooner drawn and quartered than see them return to the Whitehouse. I voted the way I did because I was gambling Trump was a better hope for killing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which by itself was such a huge deal that his making good on that promise right away, summarily, still vastly outweighs everything else he has done and a great deal more than he could still do. I voted the way I did because I thought there might at least be a chance that he would kick some of the Wall Street bankers in the nuts, because he could and because the rabble (like me) would cheer him for it; Hillary never would.
So there's no hypocrisy on my part. I was clear why I voted for Trump, and hating Muslims was not among my reasons, and so there is no contradiction in my lauding people who interposed their lives to save others whom most of the "decent" people in America have been taught to despise. It is a mark of the highest character to do something like that. As a man and Mason and Christian, it's what I believe integrity demands and is a standard I hope I would be equal to if ever called upon.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @06:20AM
It's sad that a army veteran and a college graduate sacrificed their lives for people that is part of a systematic operation to bring about as many babies as can be managed in order to outnumber everyone not believing in the same god. Those descendants will not show mercy to anyone else.
The college graduate could have gone on to a productive life. That will now not happen. Instead a lot of new babies will grow up to harass infidels.