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If it seems like every week, there's another terrorist attack – well, you're not wrong. According to one crowdsourcing map, there have been over 500 attacks around the world since the start of 2017, with over 3,500 fatalities. For a period in 2016, ISIS-initiated attacks were occurring, on average, every 84 hours.
Despite improvements in methods and coordination among law enforcement agencies over the past 25 years, they're still hamstrung in a number of ways. With large public gatherings of people becoming more attractive targets for terrorists, what are the best strategies moving forward?
[...] But despite huge budgets and the presence of thousands of added security personnel, it's virtually impossible to prevent a determined terrorist, or guarantee absolute safety. While security efforts for events like the Olympic Games have escalated, terrorists today no longer wait for major events that draw global interest.
[...] The odds are in favor of terrorists. All they have to do is succeed once, no matter how many times they try. For public safety professionals to be fully successful, they have to prevent 100 percent of the terror attempts. It's a number to aspire to, but even the most experienced countries fighting terror – such as Israel and the U.K. – can't measure up to this standard.
[...] These days, it's necessary to consider any place where crowds congregate as vulnerable "soft targets" for the attackers. To better prepare for securing soft targets (and this isn't to say threats against "hard targets," like planes, buildings and infrastructure, have diminished) law enforcement agencies must improve coordination among one another, whether it's via intelligence, information sharing and training. And then there's the need for deconfliction, which refers to avoiding self-defeating behavior – from interagency rivalries and poor communication to insufficient coordination – by people who are on the same side.
[...] Given that there is no way to guarantee complete safety, and that the threat assessment expects more attacks, there are two more elements that ought to receive more attention: community resilience and community policing.
https://theconversation.com/how-can-we-better-protect-crowds-from-terrorism-78443
[Related]:
1996 Atlanta Olympic Games: https://www.britannica.com/event/Atlanta-Olympic-Games-bombing-of-1996
Secure Airport Design: https://skift.com/2016/07/04/how-smart-airport-design-can-make-spaces-more-secure/
Do you agree with this assessment of the security situation ? What do you think could be done to mitigate the effects of such asymmetric warfare ?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @09:22PM (24 children)
Shut down all of the mosques. Stop allowing Muslims into the country. Tell the Muslims already in the country that they have two choices: Either leave, or disavow Islam on video. Disavowing Islam on video would be pretty much a death sentence for them were they to go to the Middle East, so it would work.
That's the only real way to protect against terrorism.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @09:27PM (4 children)
"Shut down all of the mosques. Stop allowing Muslims into the country. Tell the Muslims already in the country that they have two choices: Either leave, or disavow Islam on video. Disavowing Islam on video would be pretty much a death sentence for them were they to go to the Middle East, so it would work.
That's the only real way to protect against terrorism."
The committed Muslim terrorist would have no problem disavowing Islam on video and then going
through with his plans for terrorism. Are you really so stupid you cannot imagine these people lying in
order to achieve their goals ? Your solution is just stupid and naive. If you're a child this is excusable
and understandable, but if you are an adult you are one stupid motherfucker.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @10:05PM (2 children)
[GP is] one stupid motherfucker
...not to mention the nitwit who mod'd him up.
BTW, in an HTML environment, putting a linebreak in the middle of a sentence is not a good idea.
-You- may have reached the end of the line, but not everyone sees the same page presentation that you do (screen widths, window widths, fonts, etc.).
(Hitting Ctrl-PlusSign or Ctrl-MinusSign before posting will show what others might see.)
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @10:26PM (1 child)
"BTW, in an HTML environment, putting a linebreak in the middle of a sentence is not a good idea."
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I understand.
Thanks for the tips.
I will try not to do that shit in the future !
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @10:54PM
It would be even better if you were to stop doing it now, linebreak boy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @12:54AM
So, Kill them all and let god sort them out.
Problem solved.
(Score: 4, Disagree) by maxwell demon on Sunday June 04 2017, @09:36PM (3 children)
The question was how to protect from terrorism, not how to fuel it.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Sunday June 04 2017, @09:43PM
Well in that case, the terrorists will see that the US isn't afraid to fuel terrorism, and therefore isn't terrorized by it.
Then without terrorization, they'll logically determine that they can't be terrorists any more, publish their findings in respectable peer-reviewed terrorism journals, hold a few terrorism symposia, and it will end.
At the least, we'll at least enter a post-modern-terrorism era, which could be argued isn't the same as classical and/or modern terrorism. Such discussions will probably take place on public television, and people will stop paying much attention to it, ending the problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @10:57PM
Regardless of how you feel about religious discrimination, banning Islam WILL reduce terrorism in the west, since Muslims as a group are responsible for orders of magnitude more terrorism than the rest of the world combined.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @07:17AM
Appeasement doesn't work with Muslims so you need to remove them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @09:53PM (2 children)
"He has a mind so narrow that he can see through a keyhole with both eyes at the same time."
Never heard of The Irish Republican Army?
You didn't know that Zionists bombed the King David Hotel in 1946?
USAian national "Christian" Eric Rudolph (Atlanta Olympics, abortion clinics, "double taps") has already been mentioned.
The list of non-Muslims who engage in Terrorism is long.
...while your knowledge base and cognitive abilities are minuscule.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @11:01PM (1 child)
Yet it is minuscule compared to the list of Muslim terrorists.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @01:24AM
Stop bombing, invading, and occupying their countries.
Stop staging coups in their countries.
Iraq wasn't democratic under Saddam, but it was stable.
Same deal with Libya and Gaddafi.
...and more/continued imperialism/hegemony will cause MORE extremism.
The fact that anyone misses the logic confounds me.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday June 04 2017, @11:11PM (6 children)
Ban all 1.6 Muslims and you'll multiply the ranks of the disgruntled and violent by 10 fold. There aren't that many pissed off Muslims out there, yet, keep abusing them and you can change that.
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @12:02AM
I agree, perhaps we should fork version 1.5 that was far less volatile and prone to violence.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @01:41AM (3 children)
Islam is the problem. Muslim women raised in the west do not want to live with abusive rapists (as mandated by Islam). What exactly do you not understand here? What needs to be be explained to your tiny brain about human social behaviour? Why do you think an individual who insists on wearing rags and praying to Saturn 5 times a day would receive any interest from females? A single male who works and creates wealth cannot get the predatory female attention off of them fast enough. Islam is obsolete, it is finished!
From a dude who used to wear guyliner and rant about fucking chemtrails to one our most reliable political commentators. [youtube.com] You and the rest of the denialist morons who fail to understand the most basic basic socio-economics can put that in your pipe and smoke it! Wake up!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 05 2017, @03:19AM (2 children)
"Praying to Saturn?" Pretty sure El/Allah is some old Ugaritic storm god, not Cronus.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @08:38AM (1 child)
El is chronos and the kabba is a pagan representation of Saturn. "Allah" has the same root as "hour" -- the moon.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 05 2017, @05:53PM
I'd like to see some scholarly sources for this, if you have them. It sounds plausible enough, but I mostly know Semitic and Abrahamic myths, not Greek/Roman, so I can't confirm this from my own knowledge alone.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 05 2017, @02:30AM
Ahhhh, yes - appeasement. THAT always works, Neville!
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-road-to-world-war-ii-why-wasn-t-hitler-stopped-a-645707.html [spiegel.de]
(this one addresses appeasement more directly)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-road-to-world-war-ii-how-appeasement-failed-to-stop-hitler-a-646481.html [spiegel.de]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2017, @11:20PM (3 children)
Even if that did work, it would violate basic rights such as freedom of speech and freedom of religion, so it wouldn't be acceptable. It wouldn't even work, though, because you'd just anger even more people than before and the types of people who already were would-be terrorists would just become even more determined.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 05 2017, @02:35AM (2 children)
Islam is not a religion. Islam is a totalitarian regime that dictates every aspect of life. Islam is a government, a judiciary, a police force, everything. No aspect of life exists that Islam doesn't rule. Totalitarianism, at it's most extreme. In the home, at work, on the streets - there is no vacation, no escape.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/10/islam-a-totalitarian-ideology [jihadwatch.org]
"Islam is a totalitarian ideology that aims to control the religious, social and political life of mankind in all its aspects — the life of its followers without qualification, and the life of those who follow the so-called tolerated religions to a degree that prevents their activities from getting in the way of Islam in any manner. And I mean Islam. I do not accept some spurious distinction between Islam and “Islamic fundamentalism” or “Islamic terrorism.” The terrorists who planted bombs in Madrid on March 11, 2004, and those responsible for the death of approximately 3000 people on September 11, 2001 in New York, and the Ayatollahs of Iran, were and are all acting canonically. Their actions reflect the teachings of Islam, whether found in the Koran, in the acts and teachings of the Prophet Mohammed, or in Islamic Law that is based upon them."
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @04:22AM
Dude! TMI!
The only people who read a a site like jihadwatch are people who masturbate to terrorism news coverage.
We don't need to know about your sad, obscene kinks.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @06:04AM
Actually, it's not radical islamist terrorists you need to be afraid of. If you live in the US, it's radical white terrorists and the christian taliban that pose a greater threat to you - they've killed a substantially higher number of people than islamists over the decades and centuries since arriving in the Americas, or even if you look over the past decade. They will slash you in the neck or string you up from a tree if you even speak up.
And of course, your chances of dying at the hands of gun-wielding police (the vast majority of whom are white) are 700% higher. In 2016 armed cops killed nearly a 1000 people. Islamist terrorists are laughably unsuccessful by any metric.
In fact, you should be more worried about armed-to-the-teeth mentally-ill veterans like Runaway1956 going crazy and offing you... who knows what may trigger them... after all, they have no sympathy or empathy for their fellow humans, lack basic reasoning skills, live off the public teat (free VA healthcare, anyone? man, I would love me some free healthcare), imagine monsters where there are none, protect monsters (i.e., the rightard leadership) when they actually find them ...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2017, @01:32AM
I like this plan! Radicalize everybody! Let's do it to Christians also and blame it on Muslims! Let's get this Armageddon started!
Incidentally, this plan may also have a positive effect on AGW. I can't see the downside here.