Good question, I'd have probably voted for that rather than the slightly less family-practical Miata as something likey to boost market penetration at the lower cost end of the market. The problem with electric at present is that the infrastructure necessary to make longer trips is lacking the necessary numbers to make people feel they can rely on it - whether that's in the form of quick and readily available charging points, battery replacements, longer range battery packs, or whatever. To get that in place you need more electric cars on the road to encourage people to invest in the forecourt infrastructure, and at present that means targetting those who would use their electric vehicle for shorter journeys that also involve spending lots of time parked where they can be recharged. Realistically, that either means smaller, mass-produced and low-cost cars, local delivery trucks/vans and (where applicable, e.g. mostly the US) the SUVs typically used by soccer moms.
I put in the Dodge Grand Caravan as an option that would cater to the soccer-mom crowd. Soccer moms don't need SUVs IMO and minivans hold as many (or more) passengers. But SUVs are more popular so I probably should have included one; if I'd thought it at the time I probably would have gone with one of the Land Rover models that's sold in the US.
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I think that it's worth nothing that the F-150 has been America's best selling/vehicle/ many times.
A large amount of Americans are people who use their vehicle and home not for traveling back and fourth to work, but actually as a tool for their work as well.
The vehicle has to be nice enough to take a woman out on a date in, rugged enough to make it to the work site that's off the road, strong enough to pull a trailer, luxurious enough to make a long trip in, but not too nice as to make you scared of scratching the paint a bit or getting some food on the seat as you're eating between jobs.
I use my SUV this way, and I imagine that a lot of people use their pickup trucks this way, too.
There are people who use these things as status symbols, but a lot of them really do use them for their work on a regular basis. Having a multi-purpose vehicle that can do everything is a lot more economical than having a car, a truck, a trip vehicle, etc.
Seconded. I drove an F-150 for many years. They're well-understood and easy to maintain, and all the engine stuff is readily accessible. If I had the money I'd get the F-150 Raptor.
But fuck, man, those gas prices. Even in America where gas is kinda cheap compared to Europe I had the model with a Triton V8 and the gas costs were $90 a week. With a small economy car, my gas bill is now $30 a week for the same amount of weekly driving. But I'm really missing that bed, a hatchback just ain't the same for hauling or taking women out on dates.
My wife and I have found that a small trailer (4ft by 6 ft) can easily be hauled behind a small car/SUV, and works very well for most things we would use a truck for. The SUV is big enough to pull our boat, and the gas mileage is much better than a truck.
Granted, we don't haul a camper, or anything that large. If we did, we'd probably buy a truck. But for us, the trailer has paid for itself in gas alone many, many times over.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 22 2014, @09:09PM
Motorcycle: Yamaha V-Star 250 [wikipedia.org]
Tiny eco car: Smart Fortwo [wikipedia.org]
Small sports car: Mazda Miata [wikipedia.org]
Big truck: Ford F150 [wikipedia.org]
Earth mover: Caterpillar 797B [wikipedia.org]
An airplane: Airbus A380 [wikipedia.org]
A train: GE ES40DC [wikipedia.org]
Giant-ass saw thing: Krupp Bagger 288 [wikipedia.org]
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 22 2014, @09:40PM
Fuckin' Virago riders.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday May 22 2014, @11:49PM
The quiz as listed [soylentnews.org] in the previous poll had the Toyota Camry as one of the choices.
Did the quizmaster omit it here because it was too typical, or because it would win?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Friday May 23 2014, @09:21AM
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 3) by AndyTheAbsurd on Friday May 23 2014, @11:02AM
I put in the Dodge Grand Caravan as an option that would cater to the soccer-mom crowd. Soccer moms don't need SUVs IMO and minivans hold as many (or more) passengers. But SUVs are more popular so I probably should have included one; if I'd thought it at the time I probably would have gone with one of the Land Rover models that's sold in the US.
Please note my username before responding. You may have been trolled.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Preston on Friday May 23 2014, @03:31AM
I think that it's worth nothing that the F-150 has been America's best selling /vehicle/ many times.
A large amount of Americans are people who use their vehicle and home not for traveling back and fourth to work, but actually as a tool for their work as well.
The vehicle has to be nice enough to take a woman out on a date in, rugged enough to make it to the work site that's off the road, strong enough to pull a trailer, luxurious enough to make a long trip in, but not too nice as to make you scared of scratching the paint a bit or getting some food on the seat as you're eating between jobs.
I use my SUV this way, and I imagine that a lot of people use their pickup trucks this way, too.
There are people who use these things as status symbols, but a lot of them really do use them for their work on a regular basis. Having a multi-purpose vehicle that can do everything is a lot more economical than having a car, a truck, a trip vehicle, etc.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday May 23 2014, @01:41PM
Seconded. I drove an F-150 for many years. They're well-understood and easy to maintain, and all the engine stuff is readily accessible. If I had the money I'd get the F-150 Raptor.
But fuck, man, those gas prices. Even in America where gas is kinda cheap compared to Europe I had the model with a Triton V8 and the gas costs were $90 a week. With a small economy car, my gas bill is now $30 a week for the same amount of weekly driving. But I'm really missing that bed, a hatchback just ain't the same for hauling or taking women out on dates.
(Score: 2) by jdccdevel on Monday May 26 2014, @03:30PM
My wife and I have found that a small trailer (4ft by 6 ft) can easily be hauled behind a small car/SUV, and works very well for most things we would use a truck for. The SUV is big enough to pull our boat, and the gas mileage is much better than a truck.
Granted, we don't haul a camper, or anything that large. If we did, we'd probably buy a truck. But for us, the trailer has paid for itself in gas alone many, many times over.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Friday May 23 2014, @01:58PM
My family's fit for that application is generally the Subaru Legacy.
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(Score: 2) by TrumpetPower! on Monday May 26 2014, @10:04PM
Hmpf. That's not what I would have guessed.
Yamaha V-Star 250: Latest model electric guitar [tachyonlabs.com]
Smart FourTwo: What you get when you ask a geek to multiply six by nine [wikipedia.org]
Mazda Miata: Stage name of that "Asian" dancer at the "gentlemen's club" [yahoo.com]
Ford F150: River crossing in the upper right quadrant [wikipedia.org]
Caterpillar 797B: Creepy crawlie to avoid [wikipedia.org]
GE ES40DC: Gesundheit [wikipedia.org]
Krupp Bagger 288: Automated coffee grind disposal system [krupsusa.com]
Cheers,
b&
All but God can prove this sentence true.
(Score: 2) by Woods on Tuesday May 27 2014, @03:17PM
You get 10 clever points.