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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the lunar-tater-tots dept.

China plans to send a 3 kg miniature ecosystem biosphere to the surface of the moon by using Chang'e 4 mission, incorporating a robotic lander and rover. When it departs in 2018.

The container will send potatoes, arabidopsis seeds and silkworm eggs to the surface of the moon. The eggs will hatch into silkworms, which can produce carbon dioxide, while the potatoes and seeds emit oxygen through photosynthesis. Together, they can establish a simple ecosystem on the Moon, says Zhang Yuanxun, chief designer of the container.

[...] Suitable temperature for plants and insects to survive and thrive is between +1 .. +30 ⁰C. But the moon's surface temperature ranges between -170 ⁰C at night to +120 ⁰C in the day. To get around this problem, the container will be equipped with a[n] insulation layer and light pipes to ensure the growth of the plants and insects inside. Specially designed batteries will be used to provide a consistent energy supply.

[...] The whole event with the development of plants and insects on lunar surface will be live-streamed to the world, says the project's chief designer Xie [Gengxin].

Meanwhile researchers at the International potato center (CIP) and UTEC, Peru technical university in Lima, investigates if it's possible to grow potato on the planet Mars.

In the future all you base are owned by China?


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  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:22AM

    by mhajicek (51) on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:22AM (#525875)

    Is trying for a flyby.

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    The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Thursday June 15 2017, @06:16AM (2 children)

    by its_gonna_be_yuge! (6454) on Thursday June 15 2017, @06:16AM (#525883)

    Maybe if coal were discovered in the moon, Trump would make the moon great again.

    Until then, let's watch the Chinese videos of something actually getting done.

    • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:13PM (1 child)

      by Sulla (5173) on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:13PM (#525986) Journal

      One rover with a potato is more important than decades of rovers and tests on the ISS and the huge advances in privte space? A four year step-back in US space operations still leaves us ahead of most of the world

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      Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:13PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:13PM (#526154)

        I would say yes.

        The rovers have been absolutely incredible and given an incredible insight into Mars in particular. But it often feels like NASA is not goal oriented, but rather shifting from one project to another with no real direction or path. I think a natural goal for humanity is colonization of another planet. Not isolated research outposts, but genuine colonization. It certainly won't be easy, but I think this is clearly going to be man's next step. To that end we are now performing some important experiments, but it really took SpaceX kind of kicking NASA in the arse (and yes, I realize the paradoxical relationship there as SpaceX 100% would not exist today if not for NASA's early support) to get them to start moving in the right direction again. For instance the extremely recent longterm habitation aboard the ISS, cryostasis-like experiments, the ongoing Mars-simulation isolation experiments in Hawaii, and so on. Those have been extremely valuable but all happened just within the past few years. That's kind of insane.

        And Mars 2020 will finally start bringing more hugely important experiments to Mars, including in-situ-resource-utilization methods to generate oxygen from Mars' atmosphere. But yeah we also need to be experimenting with longterm food production, energy generation, revolutionary autonomous building systems to establish more appropriate scales of things such as oxygen generation, habitation construction, and so on.

        Why I would say yes, to your question, in particular is that if we were experimenting with growing food on foreign bodies a decade or two ago. I think it would have left us on a far different trajectory than the one we ended up on. We ended up on a meandering (though incredibly educational) migration from one relatively disparate project to another. People need a mission. I could be entirely wrong, but I don't think China's mission followup to a successful test of farming on the moon would be then to e.g. send a probe to analyze the atmosphere of Neptune.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:51AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:51AM (#525908) Journal

    你的情况如何?
    我是个土豆!

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Geezer on Thursday June 15 2017, @10:41AM

    by Geezer (511) on Thursday June 15 2017, @10:41AM (#525938)

    The Chinese space agency has noted a sudden wave of astronaut applications from Ireland.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:09AM

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:09AM (#525943) Journal

    > The whole event with the development of plants and insects on lunar surface will be live-streamed to the world,

    Expect the internet to go crazy over the sad plight of these poor, doomed silkworms. I predict they will reach cult internet celebrity status within hours of hatching, with some enterprising wag launching kickstarter for a silkworm rescue mission shortly thereafter.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:18AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:18AM (#525950)

    Aren't mentioned in the article. I wonder what the plan is? Store alot of energy during the daytime to power uv lighting during the night time?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2017, @04:44AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2017, @04:44AM (#526313)

      It's mentioned in the fukn summary...

  • (Score: 2) by rondon on Thursday June 15 2017, @12:55PM (1 child)

    by rondon (5167) on Thursday June 15 2017, @12:55PM (#525979)

    I wish my country still had the drive to do things like this that will inspire young people to reach for the stars, but ultimately I am just glad that someone is stepping up to do space things like this!

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:19PM

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:19PM (#526054)

      Exactly. Countries that can't get their shit together and do useful stuff in space should just step aside and let others who have the will do so, and get the recognition.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:01PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:01PM (#526008)

    We don't care about contaminating extraterrestrial bodies anymore?

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:18PM

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday June 15 2017, @03:18PM (#526053)

      Who's "we"?

      Some of you may worry about "contaminating" a lifeless rock, but obviously the Chinese are more worried about getting stuff done.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:52PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:52PM (#526088)

      Why exactly were we worrying about that?

      I mean if the mission is to look for life, you dont want to bring any signs of it with you, but thats not the end all be all. We hope to live up there someday, that will mean we have to import some stuff first.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by bob_super on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:49PM (1 child)

        by bob_super (1357) on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:49PM (#526108)

        I'm almost done setting the thrusters under the Capitol building.
        Going up: Over 500 specialists in the fine art of generating and stirring up shit, hot air, and wind. Also committed to unlimited CO2 emissions.

        • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday June 16 2017, @05:47AM

          by kaszz (4211) on Friday June 16 2017, @05:47AM (#526320) Journal

          No need for propellant then. Hot gas generators are already present ;-)

    • (Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:51PM

      by its_gonna_be_yuge! (6454) on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:51PM (#526110)

      We don't care about contaminating extraterrestrial bodies anymore?

      Certainly the president has no qualms about contaminating terrestrial bodies. Extraterrestrial is just more pussy to grab for the head potato.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:05PM (#526243)

      Because it has no atmosphere, it cannot sustain life unless that life brings its own ecosystem.

      That's called a terrarium. [google.com]
      Properly done, those are a sealed environment where there is a perfect balance between oxygen-consuming organisms and carbon dioxide-consuming organisms.

      N.B. If it's not sealed, it's just a "planter" and that wouldn't work on the moon.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2017, @04:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 16 2017, @04:46AM (#526314)

      Only insightful to people to stupid to understand the summary even.

      They aren't just flying by and dumping a bunch of potatoes on the moon.

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