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posted by n1 on Sunday June 18 2017, @12:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the not-your-bar-tab dept.

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

The annual Stack Overflow developer surveys often include lots of bad news. "People still use PHP," for example, is a recurring and distressing theme. "Perl exists" is another.

But never before has the survey revealed something as devastatingly terrible as the 2017 survey. Using PHP and Perl are matters of taste. Extremely masochistic taste, certainly, but nobody is wrong for using those languages; it's just the programming equivalent of enjoying Adam Sandler movies. But the 2017 survey goes beyond taste; it goes into deep philosophical questions of right and wrong, and it turns out that being wrong pays more than being right.

Developers who use tabs to indent their code, developers who fight for truth and justice and all that is good in the world, those developers have a median salary of $43,750.

But developers who use spaces to indent their code, developers who side with evil and probably spend all day kicking kittens and punching puppies? Their median salary is $59,140.

Source: ArsTechnica


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Sunday June 18 2017, @01:44AM (3 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Sunday June 18 2017, @01:44AM (#527260) Journal

    I fucking hate the use of whitespace to delineate code blocks.

    It really is a mess. And another flamewar waiting to happen.

    http://wiki.c2.com/?SyntacticallySignificantWhitespaceConsideredHarmful [c2.com]
    vs
    https://unspecified.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/why-pythons-whitespace-rule-is-right/ [wordpress.com]

    There's no winning that argument. Just walk away.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 18 2017, @02:08AM (1 child)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 18 2017, @02:08AM (#527273) Journal

    Yes, there is a winning of that argument, and it is firmly on the "You want whitespace to mean something, fuck off back to TECO" side.

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    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday June 19 2017, @06:42AM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Monday June 19 2017, @06:42AM (#527777) Homepage
      So much blah-blah-blah nonsense in this story, almost all of which overlook the corner cases that are 90% of programming, but you basically just nailed it with one line!
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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday June 19 2017, @05:51AM

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Monday June 19 2017, @05:51AM (#527752) Homepage
    from 2nd link: "Indenting a line is like adding an opening curly brace, and de-denting is like a closing curly brace."

    He starts inventing words in his opening paragraph? How can I take anything this guy says seriously, he's clearly a complete nob! Well, I could read on and see what his actual argumentation is, I won't deign to call it logic, and it's either a straw man or proof that he surrounds himself with utterly braindead people. Quite who influenced whom in that crowd I won't venture to guess. I'm guessing that if I read any further, I'm only going to see more ill-founded drivel - is it really worth my time?
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