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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday June 27 2017, @02:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the who-watches-the-retractions dept.

From Breitbart:

Another day, another very fake news story from the network President Donald Trump has identified as "very fake news."

CNN's Thomas Frank on Thursday evening published what would have been considered an explosive report if remotely true: One anonymous source told him both the Treasury Department and Senate Intelligence Committee are probing a Russian investment fund with ties to several senior finance world leaders close to President Trump. Only problem? Both Trump administration officials and those close to Senate GOP leadership say it's simply untrue.

The retraction from CNN:

On June 22, 2017, published a story connecting Anthony Scaramucci with investigations into the Russian Direct Investment Fund.
That story did not meet CNN's editorial standards and has been retracted. Links to the story have been disabled. CNN apologizes to Mr. Scaramucci.

According to BuzzFeed News, CNN has responded by actually requiring executives to review stories:

CNN is imposing strict new publishing restrictions for online articles involving Russia after the network deleted a story and then issued a retraction late Friday, according to an internal email obtained by BuzzFeed News.

The email went out at 11:21 a.m. on Saturday from Rich Barbieri, the CNNMoney executive editor, saying "No one should publish any content involving Russia without coming to me and Jason," a CNN vice president.

At least now we'll know who to blame.

[Ed Note: I debated leaving this in politics or dropping it to the main page. I opted for the latter because politics or not, the prevalence of "fake news" is one that we deal with on a daily basis from our respective social media feeds to all the major broadcast and cable news networks. How are we to tell what is "fake" and what is actually (relatively) "true"? The main stream media all put their spin on everything. A right slant for some, a left slant for others. Is the truth somewhere in between, or is it a story that we aren't getting becasue the mainstream media is so intent on telling their narrative that we the people are getting the shit end of the stick regardless of where we get the so called news?]

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by ikanreed on Tuesday June 27 2017, @05:37PM (8 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) on Tuesday June 27 2017, @05:37PM (#532034) Journal

    Who wants to write up a complex reply to the kinda person who cites Breitbart and thinks Buzzfeed counts as balance?

    I don't particularly respect conservatives' right to life anymore. You're reality immune fascists who are currently threatening the lives of my family with your backwards ideology.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 27 2017, @09:13PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 27 2017, @09:13PM (#532129)

    I used to be against the death penalty. That was until I realized that it is the ONLY way to cure a psychopath

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by ikanreed on Tuesday June 27 2017, @09:53PM (1 child)

      by ikanreed (3164) on Tuesday June 27 2017, @09:53PM (#532152) Journal

      Psychopaths are okay compared to modern conservatives, they don't turn being a shitty human being with no redeeming characteristics into an ideology they celebrate.

      And evidence shows psychopaths are treatable(just not the way the American justice system does it), unlike the shitty pseudo-fascists we've developed lately.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:10PM (#532481)

        Treatment is not a cure. And it is impossible to tell with a psychopath anyway. Best to just shoot them and be done with it. Kinetic energy is the only real cure. Treatment only builds a facade.

  • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday June 27 2017, @10:14PM (4 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Tuesday June 27 2017, @10:14PM (#532162) Journal

    "The only way to win is not to play." When you talk of killing right wing propagandists and liars, you're playing their game. Their understanding of the world is that it's a big competition. They see everything through that lens. "Facts" are just another thing to fight over, and to them objective reality is less important than perception. Nuclear war? What a powerful way to eliminate a whole lotta competition, and there are frighteningly many people who are deluded about their own chances of surviving a nuclear war and would launch the nukes if they could. You know, just get in a lead lined fridge, duck and cover, clear the mothballs and cobwebs from Grandpa's old fallout shelter he built in 1962, and keep it stocked and ready.

    It's a jungle out there, a dog eat dog world, so they claim, and you just identified yourself as a progressive, and proposed the elimination of a bunch of their dogs, through force, the ultimate tool of the maximal competitor. If you really are a progressive, and not a conservative provocateur plant masquerading as a progressive, you could hardly say a worse thing. Just hand them the very thing they need so they can say progressives are no different, and confirm their world view that there's no more to life than fighting.

    We didn't fight our way to the top of the animal kingdom. We are the physically weakest of all the animals

    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday June 27 2017, @10:40PM (1 child)

      by ikanreed (3164) on Tuesday June 27 2017, @10:40PM (#532177) Journal

      What do you want me to say? That modern day conservatives aren't vile scum who take basically every part of modern society for granted while attempting to deny those same protections for everyone slightly different? That they're decent human beings, not gigantic lying hypocrites?

      Because if I gave you that premise, your conclusion would be valid. But they're not. Sanity left the conservatives years ago. Human decency probably before that. Now there seems to be nothing left but people who will actively chase whatever gives them validation for the dumb shit they believe, no matter how nonsensical, destructive, and stupid it may be.

      We are facing the apotheosis of a cult of tolerating intolerance.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:04AM

        by bzipitidoo (4388) on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:04AM (#532217) Journal

        The debate is not happening in the dark, it is happening on a big stage, and there are many, many undecided people watching what is said and done. The audience counts for much more than the idiots parroting the propaganda and lies. What you say and do should always be with the audience in mind. You can't show everyone that facts, truth, and science is ultimately stronger if you propose stooping to the level of those who are playing at being the messengers and minions of ignorance and force, lovers of guns, by reaching for the very tools and methods for which they profess respect. They may yet be persuaded to change their views, but not that way. If they see that they are at odds with most of the world, if they can be pried out of their bubbles and echo chambers far enough to see that for themselves, many will quietly switch, and all the more easily if they can do so without someone trying to embarrass them.

        There is hope. Look how radically views have changed on homosexuality. In the 1990s, it was "don't ask, don't tell", and their marriages weren't allowed. What was the big deal, why were the social conservatives so opposed to gay marriage, how did it affect them? Well, it didn't, and they've now pretty much conceded that point. Race relations have been more in the news lately, but have improved despite perhaps a recent step back. Our first black president just finished his 2nd term peaceably. Video recordings, especially with smartphones, have blown the cover that racist cops used to be able to rely on to do their dirty deeds. Cops tried to ban video recording of them at work, and failed hugely. Now they have to have the cameras themselves! As for Climate Change, the denialists are making lots of noise, still enough of them to do that, but they're a laughingstock. The rest of us have been quietly moving to do things about the problem. City managers on the coast and farmers know it's happening and have been taking measures to deal with it. It would be better if we could have more international coordination sooner. Once again, as with gay marriage, idiots are opposing something because they were manipulated into it, not because they have a personal stake in it, rather the opposite. Another advance is on the War on Drugs, with marijuana legalization spreading across the nation.

        So, chill out. Brietbart and Fox News and those ilk have little credibility outside their echo chambers, never did have much. Did you not find it hugely amusing when Rush Limbaugh had to reveal he was addicted to OxyContin? How about that slut shaming he tried on Sandra Fluke? He went too far, and is at last fading into obscurity, advertisers abandoning him. his show shunted to the least popular corners of the radio spectrum, or kicked off entirely. Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly ruined themselves with the way they treated women, kept doing it until they were finally exposed, then made it worse trying to handle it with bluster and coverups. The days of reckoning will come for other liars, and we can still afford to wait for it, still have leeway on our various problems.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:10AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @01:10AM (#532220)

      And in the back of my mind all I could hear was "first they came for the liberals, but I did not speak up for I was a libertarian..."

      There is a time for peace and tolerance, and there is a time to push back against encroaching fascism and prejudice. The popular tactic now is for conservatives to try and paint liberals as the evil things liberals don't like, it is sad and hypocritical.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 28 2017, @03:15PM (#532483)

        Agreed. I'm a bleeding heart libertarian, and I spoke up a little when they came for the liberals. I only spoke up because I thought they could be reasoned with. They cannot. Reason won't reach them, because they're no longer seeking an intellectual dialogue. All they're doing is trolling, and lest we forget, "Don't feed the trolls."

        I think it's funny how they think they're the only ones who own guns. At this point, I want them to go ahead and try to round up LGBTs and put us all in concentration camps. I'm a libertarian because I'm LGBT, and I think that libertarianism provides a practical framework that's fundamentally rooted in the messiness of the real world, including both the needed from time to time to defend loved ones and property from lethal force with lethal force and the aversion to resorting to such means.

        "Come at me bro" is the only rational response to what conservatives have become. "Came at me bro" is just words after all.