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posted by Fnord666 on Friday July 07 2017, @06:16PM   Printer-friendly
from the I-have-methane dept.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40518293

France is set to ban the sale of any car that uses petrol or diesel fuel by 2040, in what the ecology minister called a "revolution".

Nicolas Hulot announced the planned ban on fossil fuel vehicles as part of a renewed commitment to the Paris climate deal.

He said France planned to become carbon neutral by 2050.

Hybrid cars make up about 3.5% of the French market, with pure electric vehicles accounting for just 1.2%.

It is not yet clear what will happen to existing fossil fuel vehicles still in use in 2040.


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday July 08 2017, @10:11PM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 08 2017, @10:11PM (#536661) Journal
    I strongly disagree on your claim. It just hasn't been worth our while yet to build a more efficient hydrocarbon-based engine. In part, because it's not easy and in part because the economics of fossil fuels just haven't justified an engine that efficient.

    Hydrocarbon vehicles create enormous amounts of pollution, and worse, they do it in populated areas where people have to breathe it.

    True, yet not true. Hydrocarbon vehicles create enormous amounts of pollution, but they don't need to. A regulatory policy which eliminates the worst polluters would substantially drop the pollution from vehicles in the developed world.

    They're also causing global warming, whether you choose to believe it or not, which is going to have drastic effects on society.

    Unless, of course, it doesn't have drastic effects on society. It is worth noting here that advocates for global warming mitigation have had an extraordinary difficult time to actually find negative effects of global warming that significantly affect society and occur on a time frame where we can verify the affects in our lifetimes.

  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Monday July 10 2017, @03:15PM (1 child)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Monday July 10 2017, @03:15PM (#537134)

    I strongly disagree on your claim. It just hasn't been worth our while yet to build a more efficient hydrocarbon-based engine. In part, because it's not easy and in part because the economics of fossil fuels just haven't justified an engine that efficient.

    Well, apparently, is HAS been worth our while to build both EVs and hybrids (both serial and parallel), because we have a shit-ton of them out there now.

    True, yet not true. Hydrocarbon vehicles create enormous amounts of pollution, but they don't need to. A regulatory policy which eliminates the worst polluters would substantially drop the pollution from vehicles in the developed world.

    Prove it. Let me see your zero-pollution hydrocarbon engine that costs on the order of a current EV drivetrain. Put up or shut up. I'm really sick of your idiotic claims that have no basis in reality.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 11 2017, @12:03AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 11 2017, @12:03AM (#537383) Journal

      Well, apparently, is HAS been worth our while to build both EVs and hybrids (both serial and parallel), because we have a shit-ton of them out there now.

      But not because of economics. Status signalling is a common human activity and EVs and hybrids play to that desire.

      Prove it. Let me see your zero-pollution hydrocarbon engine that costs on the order of a current EV drivetrain. Put up or shut up. I'm really sick of your idiotic claims that have no basis in reality.

      I'd say that most modern cars achieve that well enough, such as the already mentioned Nissan Tiida/Versa. Further, if we use renewable fuels such as biofuels, then we don't even have a global warming contribution.