The part you're missing is that "hip-hop" is culturally irrelevant outside New York, and rap is where it's at. Even the "lil's" have deep social commentary and the sound is just killing that played out wack east coast BS. From the beginning, gangsta rap has been shining a light into society's dark corners; see Spice 1 - Welcome to the Ghetto and many others, Scarface and to a lesser extent the Geto Boys, 8-Ball & MJG, especially check out 8-Ball's solo CD Lost, Dayton Family - What's on Your Mind? is a great example, UGK ("it aint like they make high levels gainable, and that quote piece of american pie just aint attainable, so how can I sustain a full life before death? I'm left out here to make it by my goddamn self"), Tupac's whole career, Lil Boosie, if you dig deep into Future and Gucci's stuff you'll find diamonds in there along with the bangers, Kanye's early output, IMO his recent stuff is lazier lyrically, Jeezy, Lil Durk, even Kodak Black if you can understand his accent, etc etc I could go on all day.
I don't disagree with anything you said. I used the distinction between 'hip-hop' and 'rap stars' to illustrate a point, for people with no exposure to anything outside the typical 'club banger' rap hits from Rick Ross and the like, it wasn't a dismissal of rap in general. I'm a big fan of Freddie Gibbs, as an example.
(Score: 2) by t-3 on Monday July 10 2017, @10:49PM (1 child)
The part you're missing is that "hip-hop" is culturally irrelevant outside New York, and rap is where it's at. Even the "lil's" have deep social commentary and the sound is just killing that played out wack east coast BS. From the beginning, gangsta rap has been shining a light into society's dark corners; see Spice 1 - Welcome to the Ghetto and many others, Scarface and to a lesser extent the Geto Boys, 8-Ball & MJG, especially check out 8-Ball's solo CD Lost, Dayton Family - What's on Your Mind? is a great example, UGK ("it aint like they make high levels gainable, and that quote piece of american pie just aint attainable, so how can I sustain a full life before death? I'm left out here to make it by my goddamn self"), Tupac's whole career, Lil Boosie, if you dig deep into Future and Gucci's stuff you'll find diamonds in there along with the bangers, Kanye's early output, IMO his recent stuff is lazier lyrically, Jeezy, Lil Durk, even Kodak Black if you can understand his accent, etc etc I could go on all day.
(Score: 2) by n1 on Tuesday July 11 2017, @09:56PM
I don't disagree with anything you said. I used the distinction between 'hip-hop' and 'rap stars' to illustrate a point, for people with no exposure to anything outside the typical 'club banger' rap hits from Rick Ross and the like, it wasn't a dismissal of rap in general. I'm a big fan of Freddie Gibbs, as an example.