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posted by takyon on Wednesday July 12 2017, @04:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the breaking-bad dept.

A one trillion tonne iceberg – one of the biggest ever recorded - has calved away from the Larsen C Ice Shelf in Antarctica. The calving occurred sometime between Monday 10th July and Wednesday 12th July 2017, when a 5,800 square km section of Larsen C finally broke away. The iceberg, which is likely to be named A68, weighs more than a trillion tonnes. Its volume is twice that of Lake Erie, one of the Great Lakes.

http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/calving/

Also at BBC, PBS, The Guardian, and The Verge.

Complete Calving Coverage:

Antarctic Larsen C Ice Shelf to Calve; Halley VI Research Station Plans Move
Antarctic Ice Rift Close to Calving, After Growing 17km in 6 Days
Delaware-Sized Iceberg Could Break Off of Antarctica at Any Moment
Larsen C Rift Branches as it Comes Within 5 km of Calving


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:43PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:43PM (#538320)

    Why would this "magically disappear"? It's not related to global warming, it happens all the time, it won't raise sea level one iota. The only reason to suppress this story is a concern that stupid people on the Internet would mis-report it - oh, wait a minute, there are millions of stupid people on the Internet, that might happen after all.

  • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:25PM (1 child)

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:25PM (#538358) Journal

    A small correction. It cannot be shown to be directly connected to global warming. This is not at all the same as saying it is not connected to global warming. There are clear indirect connections. True, they probably only affect the speed at which this kind of thing happens, but the speed is not unrelated to the size of the resultant berg, and it also affects the rate at which the glaciers are moving from the land onto the ocean (i.e., becoming ice shelves).

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:43PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:43PM (#538370)

      It cannot be shown to be directly connected to global warming.

      I have no idea where people are getting this idea that climate change cannot be linked to any evidence. That doesn't even make sense. Here is a description of two of the people studying this discussing the evidence about a link to global warming:

      And while climate change is accepted to have played a role in the wholesale disintegration of the Larsen A and Larsen B ice shelves, Luckman emphasised that there is no evidence that the calving of the giant iceberg is linked to such processes.

      Twila Moon, a glacier expert at the US National Ice and Snow Data Center agrees but, she said, climate change could have made the situation more likely.

      “Certainly the changes that we see on ice shelves, such as thinning because of warmer ocean waters, are the sort [of changes] that are going to make it easier for these events to happen,” she said.

      Luckman is not convinced. “It is a possibility, but recent data from the Scripps Institute of Oceanography actually show most of the shelf thickening,” he said.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf [theguardian.com]

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by WalksOnDirt on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:15AM (6 children)

    by WalksOnDirt (5854) on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:15AM (#538460) Journal

    ...it won't raise sea level one iota.

    Actually, it will [phys.org], just not very much.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:20AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:20AM (#538465)

      "But while the birth of the huge iceberg might look dramatic, experts say it will not itself result in sea level rises. “It’s like your ice cube in your gin and tonic – it is already floating and if it melts it doesn’t change the volume of water in the glass by very much at all,” said Hogg."
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf [theguardian.com]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:38AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:38AM (#538477)

        You have to wonder on whose payroll these "experts" are.

        The post by WalksOnDirt mentions the difference in fresh water vs salt watter.
        Yeah, that's a factor.

        A bigger factor is that this ice hasn't always been floating.
        It was part of the continental mass and -now- is floating.

        True, an ice cube that is -already- in your drink won't raise the level of the fluid as it melts.
        An ice cube that you take out of the bucket and drop into your drink WILL raise the level of the fluid.

        This isn't even junior high Science.
        Kids figure this out the first time they make their own iced drink.
        Why you (and the "experts") don't grasp the concept remains a significant question.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @01:04AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @01:04AM (#538490)

          A bigger factor is that this ice hasn't always been floating.

          It is an ice shelf, by definition it is floating:

          An ice shelf is a thick floating platform of ice

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_shelf [wikipedia.org]

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday July 13 2017, @01:13AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 13 2017, @01:13AM (#538493) Journal

          A bigger factor is that this ice hasn't always been floating.

          When was it last not floating? My understanding is that while the ice of the shelf is relatively young (according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org], about two centuries maximum age), the ice shelf itself has been floating for much longer than a couple of centuries and hence, has been around since before the industrial age.

        • (Score: 2) by WalksOnDirt on Thursday July 13 2017, @02:30PM

          by WalksOnDirt (5854) on Thursday July 13 2017, @02:30PM (#538698) Journal

          A fresh ice cube melting in fresh water won't. It will, slightly, if the water is salty.

      • (Score: 2) by WalksOnDirt on Thursday July 13 2017, @02:27PM

        by WalksOnDirt (5854) on Thursday July 13 2017, @02:27PM (#538697) Journal

        Which is in accord with what I said. There is only a slight change in volume from melting floating fresh ice into sea water, but it is definitely not none. Actually look at the link I posted, instead of ignoring it.