Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:
Here's another reason to start the day with a cup of joe: Scientists have found that people who drink coffee appear to live longer.
Drinking coffee was associated with a lower risk of death due to heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes, and respiratory and kidney disease for African-Americans, Japanese-Americans, Latinos and whites.
People who consumed a cup of coffee a day were 12 percent less likely to die compared to those who didn't drink coffee. This association was even stronger for those who drank two to three cups a day -- 18 percent reduced chance of death.
Lower mortality was present regardless of whether people drank regular or decaffeinated coffee, suggesting the association is not tied to caffeine, said Veronica W. Setiawan, lead author of the study and an associate professor of preventive medicine at the Keck School of Medicine of USC.
"We cannot say drinking coffee will prolong your life, but we see an association," Setiawan said. "If you like to drink coffee, drink up! If you're not a coffee drinker, then you need to consider if you should start."
The study, which will be published in the July 11 issue of Annals of Internal Medicine, used data from the Multiethnic Cohort Study, a collaborative effort between the University of Hawaii Cancer Center and the Keck School of Medicine.
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Two studies showed a link between coffee-drinking and a propensity toward longevity, but stopped short of proving cause and effect. [...] one downside to the research is the fact that many people stop drinking coffee -- or drink less of it -- when they are ill, a "bias that is very hard to fully overcome."
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @09:31PM (5 children)
"we see an association" , "drinking coffee", "living longer"
Yeah right, you guys here know the drill well enough. So let's try it: "Living longer makes you drink more coffee"
WHOOAAA !!!!
No shit, sherlock! Who'd have thought it, now this is totally SURPRISING !!!
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @09:34PM
> Studies Suggest Healthy Adults Drink More Coffee when they Live Longer
Assuming a constant number of cups per day, of course they drink more if they live longer...
(Score: 3, Funny) by Immerman on Saturday July 15 2017, @12:57AM (3 children)
Indeed. And missing an important piece of information too:
>People who consumed a cup of coffee a day were 12 percent less likely to die compared to those who didn't drink coffee
On what timescale? Last I heard the probability of death was holding steady at 100%...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @12:43PM (2 children)
94% and falling actually.
(Score: 2) by Immerman on Saturday July 15 2017, @01:29PM
That's a statistical fluke of exponential population growth - and even then it's a completely arbitrary number based on drawing a completely arbitrary line across our ancestral tree and only counting those individuals born after a certain point. We have around 3 billion years worth of single-celled ancestors before we even evolved multicellularism - all our multicellular ancestors combined are a statistical blip in the face of that.
We can start arguing about a non-100% death-rate when we start seeing individuals with an actual theoretical chance at immortality using existing techniques - until then it's just denial of the inevitable. And actually afterwards too -even if someone manages to avoid the infinitude of possibilities for accidental or intentional death, it seems unlikely they'll be able to beat the heat-death of the universe. But hey, a few billion years of life should be enough for anyone.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @01:59PM
Don't worry, the republican health care plans will turn that back around.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @09:32PM
...live to drink coffee. 😷☕️
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @09:38PM (5 children)
Caffeine is poison to spiders.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @10:03PM
bbl I have to install more coffee machines at The Daily Bugle.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @10:37PM (3 children)
No, it isn't poison. It also doesn't affect their webs, but they get hyper and swing around on them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @11:12PM (2 children)
Actually, yes, it does. [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @12:10AM (1 child)
Clearly you didn't watch the actual video of what it does.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @12:53AM
from the wiki: "At small doses of caffeine (10 µg/spider), the webs were smaller; the radii were uneven, but the regularity of the circles was unaffected. At higher doses (100 µg/spider), the shape changed more, and the web design became irregular."
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday July 14 2017, @09:38PM (1 child)
So: coffee grows at higher altitudes in certain climates. Did the study control for these variables? We already know that people living at higher altitudes tend to "burn up" (aka age) more slowly, possibly due to, but at least in correlation with the reduced partial pressure of oxygen.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Friday July 14 2017, @09:42PM
Who cares? You're missing the soundbite: Drink coffee, live longer.
That's it! There is no step three.
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by Sulla on Friday July 14 2017, @09:41PM (9 children)
I wonder if this has more to do with having a habit that calms the mind. I have seen studies say similar things about tea, knitting, and pipe smoking.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Friday July 14 2017, @09:47PM (1 child)
If you wait around long enough, there will be a study extolling the virtues of that which you enjoy. When that study is released, that is your moment! Strike while the iron is hot. Gather your clan, alert the media, cash in your chips! But you have to be ready, as this opportunity only comes around once in a lifetime.
Well, maybe once every couple of years. It's best to have several irons in the fire--coffee, wine, beer, red meat, saunas, jelly babies...whatever. But, still, be ready...
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(Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday July 14 2017, @10:10PM
We regularly get good ones about dark chocolate and sex, but I need someone paid by the right lobby to "find out" that Red Meat is in fact good for me.
Pretty please?
In the meantime, there's no bloody way I'd want to live longer if it requires drinking coffee every day...
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday July 14 2017, @11:14PM (4 children)
Calms the mind? Maybe like cocaine does, you're the mightiest man in the world and become Mr. Hyde after some insignificant niggle causes your mood to swing harder than Jeri Ryan and her husband. [thesmokinggun.com]
Then instead of being annoyingly hyper (but productive) with shaky hands and your mind all over the place, you become sullen in your buzz and then snappy towards others who make simple requests. Then you crash and get headaches and must choose between getting high again or getting decent sleep that night.
None of that applies to tea, knitting, and pipe-smoking (unless, of course, you are talking about crackpipe smoking).
Don't get me wrong, I love straight coffee. But to say that it is "calming" is somewhat misleading, especially given the way serious nerds abuse their coffee.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @11:57PM (1 child)
What is *wrong* with you?
(Score: 1) by Farmer Tim on Saturday July 15 2017, @12:01AM
Came for the news, stayed for the soap opera.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @12:57AM
LOL @ "niggle"
(Score: 2) by caffeine on Saturday July 15 2017, @01:38AM
You just need to drink more coffee, transcend caffeine. That may be the true path to enlightenment, or at least a good excuse to drink more coffee.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:32PM (1 child)
If that were the case, cigarettes would make you live longer instead of killing you.
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(Score: 2) by Sulla on Saturday July 15 2017, @08:42PM
I imagine at a certain point the asbestos, fiberglass, constantly burning the lungs, etc outway any benefits that cigs might provide.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @09:43PM
Studies Suggest Healthy Adults Drink More Coffee when they Live Longer
I would like to know what the test subjects opted to drink after premature death? Does the headline propose to suggest that the dead test subjects were no longer qualified for the "live" group?
It doesn't say if they continued to drink more coffee if they died unexpectedly -- only that after they already lived longer, they decided to drink more coffee at that time.
That's good news for people that hate coffee due to the flavor -- the study suggests that because old people lose a sense of taste, the ones that live longest will happily swig $15 cups at starbucks without complaint.
The ones that are not already living longer or died already are drinking something else.
(Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 14 2017, @09:57PM
Missed the TMB version: Drink more coffee; other people live longer.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @09:59PM (2 children)
Do we understand the effects of coffee yet?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday July 14 2017, @10:04PM
I recommend more funding for studies.
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(Score: 2) by edIII on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:57AM
Not nearly as well as we understand the effects of not getting coffee yet.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Friday July 14 2017, @10:22PM (5 children)
If you're poor enough, you don't buy coffee. Or maybe non-coffee drinkers drink more alcohol and kill themselves slowly that way.
You just said it won't prolong my life, then you tell me to drink up anyway. Is this guy working for Nescafe or something?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @10:56PM (2 children)
Those were my first thoughts exactly - coffee is a relatively expensive habit to maintain, which means you have to have some kind of disposable income to be a coffee drinker. Poorer people are known to have lower life expectancy. I'd be interested to see the income distributions of their participants.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday July 15 2017, @01:24AM (1 child)
Expensive coffee is expensive.
Normal coffee is pretty cheap A lot of people get it free at work, even.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:36PM
If they have jobs.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Saturday July 15 2017, @09:26AM
It's more likely those hyper people that say they only sleep 5 hours a night and don't need any coffee end up dying younger.
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(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:36PM
If you're poor enough, you don't buy coffee.
Nonsense, no other beverage except water is cheaper, unless you drink Starbucks or something. My coffee drinking grandparents were poor, and when I was poor often coffee was the only beverage I could afford. Ten bucks of Folger's or Maxwell House cost the same as a single cup of Starbucks (and tastes better) and lasts me over a month.
Coffee's even cheaper than tea.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 14 2017, @10:29PM (1 child)
It doesn't seem like he understood his first sentence.
(Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:40PM
He's not saying it's aliens...
systemd is Roko's Basilisk
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @01:06AM
Two studies [ctvnews.ca]
showed a link between coffee-drinking and a propensity toward longevity, but stopped short of proving cause and effect.
[...] one downside to the research is the fact that many people stop drinking coffee -- or drink less of it -- when they are ill, a "bias that is very hard to fully overcome."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @03:17AM (1 child)
I am Dutch-English-French-European.
How dare you reduce me to "white."
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Saturday July 15 2017, @05:16AM
Would you prefer "Euro-trash"?
When life isn't going right, go left.
(Score: 2) by opinionated_science on Saturday July 15 2017, @09:00AM
$SOMETHING, already legal, and available to buy, makes you live longer.
Rrrrright...
(Score: 2) by rigrig on Saturday July 15 2017, @11:23AM (1 child)
Drink a few gallons of coffee, before it causes cancer again next week.
No one remembers the singer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @11:42AM
The CTV article says the European study "found signs of a link between women who drank large amounts of coffee and a higher risk of cancer death, but downplayed this finding, saying it 'may be spurious.'"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 15 2017, @12:50PM
Coffee is rich in polyphenol antioxidants.
That is probably the source of its benefits.